The Kings Have Been Active Trying To Improve - June 25: The Insiders + D-Lo & KC - Raw Chili (2024)

The Kings Have Been Active Trying To Improve – June 25: The Insiders + D-Lo & KC

hey we’re live good morning everybody up chatty house there we go what up gang congratulations to Ramsey Ramsey got the belt today Manny got it yesterday right yeah yeah what’s up lizy morning everybody big hockey guys in the building today I got takes Conor McDavid we’re coming for you all right we’re taking you down today tell him yeah you’re no Alexander oetkin no Sydney Crosby speak on it I want to get I want get started too much is he even of Genny Malin TBD that’s a great question Conor McDavid is Joe pavelski with better PR tell me I’m wrong I don’t want to do that dude it’s my guy Joe pki I don’t want to do that I don’t want I don’t want to play this game no more what’s up Miss mtan what’s up Stephen what’s up Russ dog what up everybody cin Pete Tyler Jennings gang gang yep yep Russ dog Cousin Pete sure wow he called him Conor MCT you can’t make those jokes anymore you can’t make those jokes anymore wow that’s NBA champion Jason talk about that’s nutty’s up will Z what’s up Tay adaml Manny oh yeah vies are up today Vibes are high yeah Vibes are good yeah yeah here we go yeah I don’t know what happened Vibes are up though hey they really are you’re just hanging out you open up the chat like oh what’s up Manny what’s up what’s up Warren what’s up guys uh if you want to hang out in the chat head over to youtube.com ESPN 1320 twitch.tv/ ESPN 1320 we are streaming live and of course we on ESPN 1320 salute to everybody listening terrestrially on the radio the oldfashioned way shout out to you guys especially especially you guys uh we have a ton of King stuff to get to in today’s show Anthony Slater and Sam Amic wrote an article in the athletic that came out yesterday with a couple of interesting nuggets in that we will talk with Anthony Slater coming up at 10:30 because I have some questions as do I there were some there were some things in that article that I’m frankly panicking about we that word panicking no I’m just gonna Panic right now that’s we’re gonna punt hey everything that I had written up here we’re just going to punt it right now middle of the summer who cares dude I don’t did am I overreacting that I’m deeply concerned that in that piece was just a little nugget about dearen fox and now he hasn’t signed a contract yet in part because he wants to see how the roster shakes out because he wants to win at the highest level I think you are a little bit a little bit I get it I I’m not gonna like I’m not like hey like like this dude’s little going a little crazy over it because like everyone could do what they want but I think you are just a little bit let me read the let me re I will read this out loud to you this is what it was written in the athletic again article by Anthony Slater and Sam amck Anthony Slater joining us at 10:30 quote Fox’s future Looms in the background too as League sources say the allstar guard has decided not to sign an extension this year in part because he wants to see how the roster takes shape for the Long Haul Fox who has two seasons left on his current deal wants to win at the highest level and could also qualify for a significantly larger max if he makes all NBA yeah that last part is definitely important because if he does make all NBA in the next two seasons and I think if you’re Fox looking at the landscape of the West you’re going man if the Suns aren’t going to be awesome and they’re going to keep having injury stuff and Steph Curry’s 36 37 now and Chris Paul is no longer a factor and what do we what do we see out of out of Kyrie and and Luca are they gonna be man I I might have a real shot to be an all-nba guy then yeah he could make a ton of money and maybe he just signs that deal and it is what it is yeah but the fact that that’s not the only thing mentioned here that worries me a little man because what is what if he doesn’t make all NBA over the next couple of seasons and the Kings roster is just like eh yeah they made the playoffs may maybe they make the playoffs once and they they win a series but it’s they I think it just comes down to like that how much you trust Monty then because like let’s say let’s say they make the KY kma move that we’ve been talking about or whatever move Brandon whoever it is and they get whoever like that’s a playoff team definitely that’s a team I get to the second round it’s a team that could compete like with Fox and all that I think like if Monty does his job that part kind of takes care of itself all NBA part like that’s I guess like now that we’re talking through it or whatever like that’s kind of the concerning part I guess if you want to say it’s concerning just because the fact that if he does make allba like I’m not sure we’ll ask Anthony later when he comes on Anthony Slater um but like if he makes allba I don’t think the other teams are on the leak can offro correct well yeah the king CH so if he makes all NBA then I think yeah he’s here no matter what I think and I think he will make all NBA like he’ll be around there or whatever I think if Monty does what he does what he’s supposed to then they’ll be good enough to where he’ll have that opportunity but that’s that’s where my concern lies is if they are not if they don’t take steps forward this offseason let’s say the kma trade doesn’t materialize let’s say a Brandon Ingram trade doesn’t materialize and they go get Tory Craig who is declined his player option he’ll be a free agent they go get Tory Craig and um I I don’t even another Tory Craig level player and I like I like Tory Craig a lot but they just hey they’re in the play again yeah hey you know what they won a couple of playing games this time and now they’re in the playoffs and they lose in the first round is like that enough is that that that’s and that’s I think why I’m concerned because I don’t have a firm answer I think it’s less about and it’s the first time like this th it wasn’t just yeah hey he didn’t sign an extension because of the all NBA stuff like no there’s a there is a direct line there about they want to see how the roster shakes out and that and the urgency was already there maybe this is why you’re saying I’m overreacting and maybe that’s this is why that’s right because that urgency was already there to make the playoffs and to and to be be competitive in the west year in and year out whether dearn Fox was was contracted or whether dearn Fox had signed an extension or not yeah that urgency to make the playoffs is always going to be there but now it’s like yo that that nugget in there just really really jumped out to me that I because I had not not even considered a world where dearen Fox isn’t on the king in on the kings in three years well another Counterpoint can you like well it’s not like fox puted out there like team or whoever whatever like can you yeah Le sources like can you put that out like can you just say like oh yeah Fox isn’t gonna sign as extension because he wants to make all NBA so who can make more money like is that like the best way to put that out there or more so like yeah Monty build I want to see Monty build up the team see where that’s going also like hey all NBA a good point that’d be pretty sweet too yeah just put it out like yeah I’m trying to get this back yeah no you’re right I just that was the that was the piece of that that jumped out the most to me and again I’m not freaking out like because maximum freak out would be like well then you got to trade Fox he’s not coming back that’s not it’s not that yeah but it just adds to that urgency of hey we already knew this team needed to make the playoffs we already knew that that’s now the standard if they’re going to move forward with this group and this coaching staff and this core of players then ownership needs to see them in the postseason the real postseason yeah a top six type of team or top eight type of team if they were coming off like a 30 win season and stuff like I think I’d be a lot more concerned because like okay the Gap as far as like you needed to be a lot better and compete is a lot larger than it would have been like where you are now you’re 46 win team last year whatever did make playoffs but it’s only four wins off 50 not money doesn’t have to do too much or whatever so I think it’s not concerning just because they’re already on that track they’re already working towards that I hope so we got it Kyle don’t worry I got you I hope so I got you don’t worry thanks do not stress I’m gonna stress a little that’s fine I don’t know like I said I’m this is just me as a human I am a person that I’m a worst case scenario guys I get it because you know what I’m a Celtics fan like Kyrie Once Upon a Time said I’m not leaving and I was on Twitter he’s not leaving and he left so like I get it be to be on your toes at all times no I just mean I just mean even outside of sports yeah when I when I did the show from home it was because our the people who did our our Landscaping in our in our new yard said hey we’ve got this leak coming we think it’s just the valve but it might be something that’s like under the concrete we just poured so we’re going to have to check this out my brain is immediately like welp they’re gonna have to tear up all this oh my We’re not gonna be I’m well make it a pool now like this is ridiculous like everything’s the worst and then it turns out yeah hey do you know what it was it was this sprinkler valve was literally just the threads were shredded so they just cut it down and replaced it and now everything’s fun went to the local hardw and picked up the literally that is exactly where they went dude was like I’m gonna run to Ace actually could have went to work and it would have been fine I would have been totally fine I probably could have done it I probably could have done the work myself but I my brain immediately like I’m I’m worried about it I was like our sprinklers might just be we may need to tear up the whole yard and redo this whole thing see that’s what this is how are we going to aord this oh my God this is awful and so that’s why this is not this is not Kings related this is not dearn fox related this is just me this is me seeing info out there it’s like yeah hey Daren Fox hasn’t sign and and last year when he didn’t sign his extension it’s like all right that makes all the sense like of course of course he’s not going to take the the extension now he’s going to wait but now when you float that it’s like yeah he’s got two years left on his deal and also he wants to see how the roster shakes out too like well I would like to see how the roster would shake out as would you like we’re all we all kind of want to see how the roster would shake out like that’s what I’m saying like it’s all just we’re already on that track I think it’s fine we just need to go get a all NBA a hard we’ll be fine hey but is there and this is what we’ll talk to Andy CER about is it like yeah hey he’s kind of is he moving towards the door and like looking and I’m not going to let you do that dude I’m I’m not going I’m not going to let you do that this is just again this is not dearn related or King related this is just how I operate in my life and when I see something like that I’m like ah oh no so first thing de we yesterday Adam shefer we’ll talk about this coming up Adam shefer tweets that disgruntled 49ers wide receiver Brandon iuk is requested a meeting with the team according to per Ryan Clark uh he’s meeting with the team today yeah my my first instinct is like oh my God he’s retiring not retiring but like he’s he’s out he’s done he’s no long like everything’s awful and you think about it and you you start to you know work through it but that little piece of negotiations I guess no it is it is but is there any is there any doubt that no matter what dearen fox and this is why it’s a little different for me with the fox thing is there any doubt that the kings are going to offer him the maximum amount of money that they can possibly offer him no doubt at all at any point over the next two like anytime Darren fox wants to sign the richest deal he possibly can the kings are going to be like yes here Darren can be like hey guys let’s negotiate Kings be like okay here’s this what we can offer you now Darren can turn it down obviously because he wants to make all MBA but like that’s what the Kings will do yes whatever you want we will offer whatever we can yes yeah easy so you don’t think there’s any scenario where fox looks at the roster after this year and let’s say they they’re a playing team again and they don’t make the playoffs you don’t think there’s any scenario where he’s like eh there because that’s how this reads to me in the athletic I mean like sure but like something had to have gone like like that you’re going worst case scenario I think too soon way too soon way too soon like I’m like yeah like maybe if like they traded for kzo or whatever it’s like just they like had injuries or something like I just I don’t see like I think I’m trusting the path that they’re on I don’t think that’s an issue I don’t okay on a scale of 1 to 10 on the Panic meter I’m out of negative two negative yeah negative W all right I to put money on i’ say DN Fox as a king for the next five six power long that okay that’s a good way to put it and that’s helpful because if you told me right now hey you have to bet $1,000 that in 2028 dearen Fox is on the Kings or not I would bet yes that’s a good way to put it maybe I haven’t been the biggest fan at the pace that M’s moved or anything like that but I do trust what he does like he can draft like knows what he’s doing as far as tread I I think they’ll handle it we’re gonna be all right Kyle the other thing in that Slater and Amic article on the athletic was that the kings were on the doorstep of trading for Caruso I got thoughts about that too um overall with the Alex Caruso thing specifically for the Kings here’s what I don’t want to get into specifics just yet let’s let’s save that but I think big picture that there was this really highly coveted player available for trade yeah and that the kings were one of the teams that were ready to put assets on the table and were actually involved in this deal and in these negotiations and it wasn’t like yeah the Kings made a phone call but talks never really went anywhere it’s like no hey the kings were involved in this deal they were they it was just Oklahoma City came in with Josh Giddy and that was the asset that the Bulls liked more and so that’s the direction they went that to me is good news and when we go when we go talk about hey the Kings needing to like uptick their urgency and and make this roster better that to me is the a sign that they are in tune with that and in in lock step with that yeah I think I think Monty knows what it is like he knows um better he’s got two all NBA guys right there he’s got monk back so like yeah he knows what it is I think all right let’s keep talking about this if you missed it uh Sam amck and and Anthony Slater wrote a piece in the athletic detailing some of the Kings offseason moves or non-m moves we will talk with Anthony Slater at 10:30 but Jesse has some thoughts on Alex Caruso that we’ll get you next on ESPN 1320 Sacramento sports later we’re clear dog up you down oh Ned tied it shout out Netherlands for Ned you broke my heart one time did yeah cuz they played Mexico in the World Cup I think it was 2018 or 14 one of those but they called a penalty on um on Rafa Marquez that wasn’t a penalty at all and the Netherlands tied it up and they end up winning later on Mexico would have went to like the quarterfinal after that they would have played Costa Rica I think they would have beat Costa Rica would have got to the semi-final probably would have lost but damn yeah I’ll never forget it we used to play when I was at sack State at the student run station kssu shout out uh we would play FIFA on PS2 and um we would play FIFA FIFA 2010 was it I forget anyways um and we would always turn on the French announcers and that’s how they would say Wesley Schneider’s name they go schneid and it just a little culture in there shout out we’re talking about San Marino Ireland like that’s how I knew all those like countries and stuff like that geography class was useless I learned from FIFA I didn’t know San Marino is the worst team in International Football correct and I said to Jesse I was like I have no idea where that is and he was like oh it’s in Europe immediately too idiot Le I saw your question I don’t have like a specific D draft prospect I like or anything like that maybe D connect but I saw people say he’s not going to be I fall that far down I think this is probably the case they would probably have to attach a first round pick maybe at this point yeah I don’t unless the Detroit Pistons are just desperate and they’re like hey we’re ready to win now and we think the aclan can help us yeah I hope I hope that JJ reck gets Runway in the post LeBron era because I agree with tall Chinese guy they’re not that’s not a title team he’s gonna and if they’re like yeah you better win a title or we’re punting like really I think it’ll end with like him like hey JJ we got your seat back here on the ESPN don’t worry like once LeBron’s out he’s out man you think I think it’s a I think it’s a job with the short Shu wow is like that one specifically because I don’t think they’re going to be that good we get to call him a failed podcaster now by the way was he a failed podcaster or just an ex podcaster oh failed only lasted three weeks four weeks or however long I don’t care how it ended it ended he had the old man in the three was like a very popular long don’t get in the way of my narrative all I’m thinking of him and LeBron’s that lasted three weeks what are you doing to me I JJ reic was very failed podcaster JJ reck was very successful in the cont podcaster I don’t think that’s accur that’s like yeah you know what Jason tum had a failed season because he didn’t win MVP you know Twitter’s been saying that so if they can do it I can do it it’s dumb whatever I’m I’m I’m getting in on the action now oh austral scored again spoiler sorry guys if somebody’s dving France is winning as well just doing footy play byplay I Austria’s kids are nice very very simple Austria’s been on the come up now back to the Insiders brought to you by Jiffy Lube on ESPN 1320 I’m Kyle Madson he’s Jesse Topia James Ham on assignment this week he will be he will be back with us next week coming up at about 15 minutes Anthony Slater from the athletic will be joining us and I’m gonna ask him I’m just gonna ask him I be panicking over this Deen Fox he tells you hey yeah don’t really Panic Kyle can we like then I’m off the ledge all right but honestly you got me moving the right way with the would you bet on dear and fox being on the kings in five years all right yeah because it’s a hard yes for me that’s where that’s where we’re going now we’re gonna need Anthony Slater come in back clean up and we’re all good after want to remind everybody you can join us Wednesday at Tom’s watch bar and do go right across from the golden one center for the first round of the NBA draft I’m going to be out there Jesse’s going to be out there DLo casy Charli o everybody from ESPN 1320 uh is going to be hanging out at Tom’s watch bar for the NBA draft we’re gonna have some mics and some speakers and we’ll be talking draft talking hoop and reacting to whatever the heck it is the Kings wind up doing whether they use the pick they trade the pick we will be there for you so come hang out with us beginning at five o’clock at Tom’s watch bar in doco right across on the golden one Center that’s it 414 K Street sweet 180 in Doo hope to see everybody there yeah sure up Tom is far I love going to Tom yeah you don’t even have to hang out the whole time just come say what’s up yeah might get I don’t want to put I didn’t I’m not going to start talking about what promotions people are gonna be out there oh yeah well I don’t I don’t know I I could probably go ask like like what do you mean if Joe’s gonna be there oh Joe Joe’s out there Joe’s 1320 Joe will be there yeah I’d be shocked if Joe wasn’t out there Jo will be out there Jo with us it’ll be a great time um a couple of non before we get back to the before we get back to the Kings uh our Florida Panthers won game seven in the Stanley Cup Final night pan Matthew Chuck yeah big time yes bosski you know who put pucks on net the Florida Panthers they sure did yeah uh dude just we talked about it yesterday if you’re gonna watch zero hockey all year but you’re gonna watch one game watch this one it was so much fun oh yeah like seriously like getting into the game or whatever like the last last the third period basically Edmonton was going the whole time you’re like oh they’re going to score they’re going to score they’re going to score and it just never happened McDavid had two chances like the last three minutes and he didn’t he just didn’t cash in at all joke artist yeah I was like so excited oh he was going to go game seven going to overtime or whatever I was so excited and they just didn’t cash in that was all I wanted so you know in sports when when you’re like I don’t know this for sure but I think what happens and part of the reason you get so bummed when when your team loses a close game is because your brain is like ready for the dopamine hit of winning and then you don’t get it yeah it’s just kind of oh and then there’s just this like like like chemical let down of like oh man and plus your bumped and then it just so I was watching that game last night and I didn’t care I I wanted to see Edmonton pull off the 3 comeback but I didn’t it wasn’t going to like ruin my night but I so badly wanted overtime that when it didn’t go to overtime I was sad oh I was bummed too I was actually bummed out yeah I was like I was kind of like like oh like good for Florida like that’s cool like the fans were going crazy and stuff like that that the call was fine and all that which kind of all right yeah I turned it off like you know when you know when your your team loses a big game you turn it you’re like I don’t want to watch it that’s what I did I was just so I like dang what an overtime because I was with you man it looked that entire for the last 14 minutes of that game it was just a barrage from Edmonton yeah and they got nothing I mean imagine being fans of Edmonton too like just that buildup just one game four one game five one game six oh we’re really gonna do it like Florida’s done it’s just go down one nothing in game s and come back and tie it almost immediately MH like come on like the your vibe are so high at that point yeah and then the Florida goes up 2 one and you’re like hey we got Conor McDavid and Leon dry cadle watch out we’re about to score and then you just don’t oh it’s a solid reminder too though we’re all we’re all most of the time Edmonton Oilers and sports thousand per dude sports are the dumbest thing I love them so much um you had Alex Caruso thoughts and I’m interested in hearing them so what kind of player like what tier is Alex kuso cuz I saw like oh like it’s great Monty’s like actively trying to like improve the team and all that but we’ve been talking about Kyle kozma for the 13th pick like Brandon Ingram like that’s obvious G to take more and all that but kind of like so that deal did go through like is it Caruso the 13th pick and insert whatever player you want and like that would have been it like I don’t like is like like how would that have been I think it was just I I I think and and we got Anthony Slater coming up in about 10 minutes we can basically have been the guy too I guess like looking for yeah it said they were close to a trade for defensive Ace Alex Caruso last week again this is via the athletic according to League sources offering the number 13 pick to Chicago as the key chip so yeah I guess I I’m kind of with you where I think Alex Caruso would have been an upgrade over like Davon Mitchell so if it was Davon in the 13th pick for Alex kuso I think your your roster gets a little bit better is Alex Caruso is second Team all def he is he is an elite elite perimeter Defender uh and he he’s functional enough on offense to to be on the court whenever yeah so that would have been a nice upgrade but to your point if it’s the 13th pick and and who pick a pick a player it doesn’t have to be Davon if davon’s your favorite player pick a pick a different player then that that that’s that 13 pick is one of your like best assets yeah for this year yeah then Manny in the chat he’s saying Kus isn’t worth the 13th pick who the hell is the 13th pick it’s not more so that cruso isn’t worth the pick but the Kings don’t really have much to work with as it is so you use that right so that’s that’s kind of that’s that’s I’m I think I’m with you like I would I wouldn’t have been like wow he wasn’t worth that yeah but I think if they had used that pick if they had traded Caruso for 13 and a player straight across it’s done I would have led the move and been like yeah nice but then you’re looking at is Washington going to just take salary for Kyle kma yeah that’s what I’m saying like maybe they maybe they take the 20 27 or whatever the next Pi you can take or whatever future picks that are gonna have asterisks based on when they can convey because of the Hawks having the kings first round pick it just I I I think I’m with you uh but on the other hand I can’t sit here on the radio every day and talk about how the Kings just need to focus on making their roster better and then say that this wouldn’t have been a good idea yeah I wouldn’t have been like a GU would like oh all right like this is it then and does this but does this now indicate that there’s not that like maybe the Kyle kosma deal maybe they are maybe they are or are not talking about it with with Washington maybe it doesn’t have to involve the 13th pick that’s fair to I also kind of thought too like maybe we kind of overvalue the 13th pick in a way or maybe Caruso is just a lot better than we think too which is also I think could be no kuso is really good yeah he’s a really good player and maybe we just underrating him a bit but like yeah just maybe the 13th pick isn’t as valuable as we thought yeah I just thoughts I don’t know no especially well the the the whole thing with with the pick in this year’s draft is is there just does a player fall to that spot that some team whether they’re a rebuilding team or a competitive team goes oh we need that guy and is then willing to to make a deal for that for that pick like if the the Wizards love Ron Holland right Ron Holland is the the king’s pick in in ESPN’s latest mock if they just love 18year old Ron Holland and like yeah you know what that that 13 pick is what that 13th pick and Kevin herder who’s still only 26 Kevin herder’s not an old guy yeah yeah like yeah that pick and Kevin hder it worth Kyle kzo for us let’s do that that’s what I think where I think the value of the pick is going to be yeah I think he’s gonna just kind of kind of depend but uh to your to your point on Caruso specifically it would have been a again it would have upgraded the roster things would have got better for sure like that th% not denying that I I think he’s listed at 6’4 but he plays bigger than that he’s got a great wingspan he’s just really really high quality player like there’s a reason that he has been coveted by teams there’s a reason a team like Oklahoma City traded Josh giddy for him do you think he’s a Derek white tier player yeah yeah okay yeah yeah yeah I do um and that’s where it would have been hard to to blame the Kings but then I think we’d still look at the roster and go well they still need some size and they still need some more athleticism yeah you probably still need that guy who can go and create his own shot too yeah you need somebody that can play like the three four maybe maybe play some interior defense again not that Alex Caruso is like an incapable defender in the post If he if he gets if he gets posted up by a little bit bigger player but it’s not that’s not what you what you’re looking for that’s not that’s not going to help the kings make the leap they need to make um the overarching point for me with this is that that is a player that I you and I think anybody else would identify as as a as an upgrade for Sacramento yeah yeah definitely in their guard rotation and they were very much involved and the 13th pick was very much on the table I think that’s probably the big like the most encouraging thing for like whatever thoughts about oh Cruz will being here and stuff like that like he’s an OKC now so that’s done and over with but I think yeah it’s just the fact that yeah Monty’s out there being active they’re working definitely yeah and they did every this isn’t this isn’t a like I said it wasn’t like the Kings offered some weak ass asset and they they offered what they could and Chicago wanted Josh giddy instead yeah which I think Chicago probably took the right deal yeah Pro maybe yeah I’m super out on Josh giddy I think he still play he was probably didn’t fit with the Thunder anymore or at least for the I saw his playoff performance is deeply concerning he’s need work but I don’t know maybe getting next to Kobe white and maybe getting to a new to a new scene will help him but yeah I don’t know uh but the king retain their asset assets all of their assets uh what do they do with those we will talk with Anthony Slater about it next he coote that piece with Sam Amic that we’ve been talking about all day in the athletic Anthony Slater from the athletic joining us next you’re not going to want to miss it he’s Jesse topy I’m Kyle mads we’re on the inside are sponsored by Jiffy lb on ESPN 1320 Sacramento sports leader did I get out early there nope yeah Caruso and Keon could very much coexist that wasn’t a who would play where was not a concern for me yeah you got to figure out Kon spot after that but cuso gets the benit like that’s not something where it’s like oh cuso plays yeah that’s a very good problem to have yeah yeah that guy looks like Alexi Lawless I can’t stand Alexi lws he’s the worst he is everything that will farell is and Kicking and Screaming yeah yeah that’s a great point I love that movie by the way underrated I feel he’s very underrated oh there he is um I need to turn this on I need to turn these on uh let’s get Anthony what’s going on man what’s up fellas can you hear me yeah we got you how you doing good B very good when uh when are you heading down to Vegas I am right now I think on the 10th where it’s like I don’t know it’s tough because I want to hit some of these California classic games but I might need to go to Team USA which is starting I think the sixth there so oh dang but I also don’t want to stay like 10 days in Vegas that sounds awful dude I got three days I can do three days I can do like five or six most people are three but it gets Bleak give me one second still haven’t done that trip to Vegas yet you’ve never been to Vegas uh ever at all no like like younger but not like as an adult are you a Miami Dolphins fan by any chance yeah I’m a huge Miami Dolphins fan also see we exist out here well now I got Hang on we’re not talking yeah no were we paying Tua I hopefully like one year make good deal while we search for the replacement oh no all right all right that’s enough no I don’t know I just I don’t think he’s exactly a cold weather playoff quarterback I think that’s been determined that’s you do could play well for one more month or they need can get a some home playoff games would mind that that’s where they that’s where they killed themselves whatever nobody wants to hear that right now we get back to it in three months I could I could talk dolphins all day yeah uh about a minute all right this hey when you co-write something with somebody is that like you guys email Your Parts back and forth or does somebody send like thoughts over and then one person no we just have a Google doc um and we kind of write through it together oh okay I mean mostly what that should signal to people is like it’s a lot of co- reporting yeah yeah yeah where it’s a lot of combo conversations you talk to that person I talk to this person we’re sharing information that type of stuff right that makes sense and then we just you know however it makes sense to write it sometimes one of us will write 90% of it but the info is what’s really being co- report right exactly all right here we go uh 10 seconds then we’ll uh we’ll be up now back to the Insiders brought to you by Jiffy Lube on ESPN 1320 I’m Kyle Madson he’s Jesse Topia James Ham on assignment for this week he will be back with us next week but joining us now from the athletic Anthony Slater uh Anthony thanks so much for hopping on with us in uh in the middle of June we appreciate that immensely man thank you James Ham on assignment I hope that means like he’s scouting giraffe prospects in Europe right now um yeah down down in Cabo specifically yeah hard work now yeah you could probably find like a late second round or a stash Prospect down in Cabo maybe I I think so I think that’s 100% he actually texted me yesterday I told him I told him I was like dude go on vacation be be away go hang out and he’s like yeah yeah I got it and then I get a text from him yesterday he’s like you know I’m watching Ron Holland tape and I see this and that blah blah blah it’s like all right man as long as he’s doing that on the beach with like a margarita you know on his phone or something I mean I don’t mind you know some people relax that way yeah I don’t I I would imagine if he’s if he’s doing that that’s 100% how he is uh how he’s taken that in I gotta say that’d be tough though some Trey broke while he’s on vacation yeah it’d be a little tough well you know love James ham but if you’re picking a week that that that might happen this might be that week for sure for sure so let’s actually let’s actually talk about that you and Sam Amic uh wrote an article in the athletic that came out yesterday I have uh a couple things I want to get to from the article specifically but um the Alex Caruso trade possibility in there was was really interesting it was it was the 13th pick as the key piece in this swap for Alex Caruso was that something that where Zack LaVine was also involved in that or was that just strictly Alex Caruso uh coming to the kings in that deal from my understanding that was more of a just a Caruso deal um I’m skeptical Zack LaVine gets moved at all this summer just because of what the contract is and what you know the Bulls are and searching for you know assets and stuff and like to be honest it’s just a completely negative value contract um so yes from my understanding it was just a Caruso thing there was Buzz that the Bulls were looking for picks in this draft and you know that is a it’s a lottery pick it’s late Lottery um I think they were close I think they were one of the more appealing offers on the table um obviously the Bulls pivoted to Josh giddy some people would think that’s a terrible move we’ll see you know like it’s a it’s a chance that works out really well I mean Josh kiddy’s got a a lot of really good counting numbers I I think it’s a fair argument to say like you’re not going to get better than Josh gidd at 13th in this particular draft but you’re at least going to get year one of a rookie deal compared to year four of Josh giddy’s rookie deal which is about to be extension eligibility with leverage on his side but to your overall point uh they were close on Caruso very close from my understanding but obviously it didn’t get done which is kind of been the story a little bit of the you know King’s transaction Windows the last few times what do you think the value of the 13th pick is like you think you can land him like a Kyle kma type or yeah you know I think it’s like dependent on who’s available and dependent on what front office you’re talking to and honestly it might be come down to one of those like who’s there on the clock and you know if let theor you mentioned KY kusman it’s a it’s a it’s a good team to theorize with with the Wizards right because they’re all about the next decade not like next season so if you know ex Prospect who they love is there at 13 you know I don’t know name your your Ron Holland or somebody drops the 13 and they happen to just really like him then maybe suddenly there’s a lot more value to them in the 13th pick because of who they now know they can get at the 13th pick um obviously if you’re just going Year bye looking at the draft this is a lower level 13th pick than past years it but I would say it’s more flat at 13 than it is at like one two three like if you’re the Hawks right now imagine the value of the first pick this year on the open market compared to the first pick last year if the Spurs decided to shop that around so uh it’s not necessarily Apples to Apples but I think it’s appealing enough I think you know you get closer to the draft you study some of these guys like there’s there’s potential rotation players out there um and some team will like somebody that falls to 13 Anthony Slater of the athletic of the athletic joining us now how intent are the kings on trading that 13th pick or are they ready to use it if if a deal like a Caruso type of trade doesn’t materialize yeah I mean look they’ve done their due diligence right they’ve had a bunch of guys in the facility I think they’re ready to make the pick I think Monty McNair has shown and that front office has shown they’re good at drafting um you know and I think it’s numbers models but also like I think at their core they’re kind of like a more scouting math front office than like you know big trade Big Move front office but also I think they have a cleare eyed understanding of of the Arc of where they are right now which is like 26 year olds help more than 20 year olds you know and fiveyear Pros eight-year Pros a Bruce Brown you know name your like mid-tier rotation player like he’s just going to help the Kings win a game in March a game in May a game whenever next year very likely more than McCain Zack Edy Ron Holland you know name even if you know maybe three years from now you’d much rather have one over the other so um I think there’s I mean we put it in the piece but like there’s more of an appetite if they can to swing for somebody that’ll just help you win more next season but you it’s also a pragmatic front office that I don’t think is going to be desperate enough where they they make a trade that value for Value isn’t that great um and but they just feel like they have to do you think um like say they like do you think they’re com like I don’t know if comfortable is white word but they think they’re all like happy if they do make the pick and like that’s what’s going on at the end of the draft that night like there’s no deal yeah look I know like their front office guys have been having private workouts in there some of those prospects that might be there at 13 I think they’re more interested in others and you know like Mike Brown’s been in there for some workouts and like like they are they have to be prepped to make the pick um and you know like it’s not impossible to get a guy at 13 that that surprises and gets into a rotation you know Kyle I know you follow the Warriors well like you know they draft Brandon psky 19th last year I remember like this guy’s so far away I don’t even know what type pick it’s going to be by the second month of the season it’s like oh this like their fourth best players their best plus minus guy uh like you you need to do your due diligence enough to know like you know what if you do fall in love with a guy that you do think is a winning type player um particularly on the defensive end to me they’re they’re looking for like sharper defensive upgrades I mean Caruso obviously is a name I mentioned Bruce Brown I think Kyle kozma is a you know guys that can come in and you know they could score some for you um and they’re not going to be a complete net negative offensively but they got to help both ways because I think this team is trying to reform and already did kind of reform in the last couple months last year into more of a two-way team than two seasons ago Anthony Slater of the athletic joining us now uh check out his piece with Sam Amic uh posted in the athletic yesterday um how much of a the there was a nugget in there about dear and fox yeah he hasn’t signed his extension yet um because he want to see how the roster shakes out he wants to win at the highest level but also wants to wait and see if he makes all NBA because then that can maximize his earning potential how what what’s a bigger factor between those two things because I read that and I I kind of go panic meter a little bit like what he they need to win for him to stay how big of a concern is that I mean it just gives a level of control to dearen Fox within the situation you hand back over control when you just pledge for for five years I mean that’s just how the league works that’s how it works with stars I mean there certainly and and and it shouldn’t come off as us reporting like clock is ticking he’s looking you know elsewhere there’s none of that going on but it’s it’s an ability to reassess as this stuff goes along and to to have more control over his future because he is entering his mid Prime and like you know primes can go quickly in this league you know look at John Wall right who’s like begging to get back in the league at this point uh so I just think he has made a calculated decision that obviously there’s financials involved because again yes if he makes all NBA there’s like an extra you know 5% of of the cap that he can suddenly absorb but also there is a desire from him to like see where this is going with the Kings you know and I think there’s a lot of we I mean next season’s become pretty massive for them right as you know it felt like you had the honeymoon Mike Brown first year where like everything was great this past season I think is probably viewed more negatively than it really was it felt like a little bit of a stabilization year that just wrong time to win 46 games the wrong time for Malik monk to get hurt bad night in New Orleans and suddenly the season feels a lot worse than it actually was but this kind of has to be the trampoline year I think we’re just we’re GNA know a lot more after the moves they make and then how those moves work next season about where this thing is really going in the in the next three to fiveyear window and I think dearon Fox part of it is financially but part of it he knows he can if he sits back watches the next season he’ll also know a lot more where this is going and he does want to win right he he wants to play in West finals and NBA Finals we’ll know if that’s realistic or not for the Kings probably by like middle of next season do you think they need to make like a significant move or I don’t if that’s like or do you think they can count on like maybe drafting the 13th pick and counting on Keegan Murray taking another step this year depends on what they’re trying to do right um I think maybe the second round this year of the playoffs yeah I mean could they get to the second round with just internal development I mean it would need to be a big Keegan Murray leap which um I mean like talking maybe All-Star type leap and I don’t know that that’s necessarily coming um but they might need that anyways even if they do make a signif a significant move but to me a significant move doesn’t have to be oh LaVine Brandon Ingram like again it can be like if Alex guso is suddenly on this team like if that had happened like you know you plug him in as as your you know some nights you’re third or fourth most important player some nights you’re sixth or seventh it feels like a more full rotation if it is a koozma like it just they just need more they felt thin at the end of last year right you know when you’re watching them in the playing games or down the stretch when they were losing those key games late especially once monk went out it was just like man it’s you know you’re starting to look at more really a six seven man rotation Mike Brown was down to playing eight guys by the time they got late in the season I just think they need another guy comfortably playing 25 to 30 minutes score for you can defend for you can give you more lineup versatility along with bringing everybody back and I think if you sacrifice the 13th pick you’re okay with that Anthony Slater of the athletic joining us now hey I want to shift gears real real briefly is there any salvaging the Klay Thompson thing for the Warriors depends on who you talk to um a lot of people say no you know obviously I’ve put out there that like it’s going in a very bad Direction at this point now like I there’s some time left there’s still conversations to be had there’s still you know actual money and offers eventually to be put on the table not only by outside suitors but eventually the Warriors will come to Klay Thompson with an offer which they have not at this point um so like I don’t think there’s been the final conversation of like it’s over it’s done like I’m leaving for sure but that’s the way it’s been trending and that’s the way it’s been trending for a while now and uh there are a lot of reasons for it uh and again if I had to predict at this moment and and my prediction is informed by what many people around the situation are telling me is that he that he he’s probably leaving but that could change dang real quick you mentioned Malik monk um a little bit ago I think like King obviously they all happy and stuff like they signed but um you think like why like what was what do you think the market was like for him like I think it was maybe a little surprising they signed so early yeah I think that monks Market was what a lot of these um free AG right now we’re facing which is the balloon payment shorter term deals uh that you know I think was kind of brought in Vogue last year by the Bruce Brown in Indianapolis the Fred Van Ved in Houston where these teams especially like Orlando Oklahoma City right now for example they know they have monster deals coming up for Jaylen Williams ched holr Paulo banero fron Vagner so they have a moment to like spend money but they don’t want to overspend where 3 four years from now they’re still still playing crazy money because they’re going to have to shift that elsewhere so they’re more the offers that are more on the table are like two for 50 two for 60 but it’s two where let’s say for example you’re Malik Monk and you’re seeing that your Market is going to be an offer that is you know 25 million a year 26 million a year yeah but it’s two for 52 if you are Malik monk would you rather for example this is speculation but have a two for 52 elsewhere or stay in Sacramento where clearly he’s comfortable and prefers to be on a 4 for 78 where you’re getting less per year but you have you it’s 78 million still like you know you’re getting that and they put a player option on the fourth year which means after three years if you still are great if you do still feel your Market is is great you can get back out into free agency still in your 20s I think that’s the factors at play that led him to say you know 4 for 78 is more appealing than than than maybe people believed it to be is there any indication that he’s going to have a different role next year no I mean from what we’re told like that that wasn’t part of the conversation now that’s not to say oh you’re guaranteed to come back for the six-man I think it’s generally like number one let’s see what the roster looks like next week two weeks from now then let’s see how training camp goes right you know you talk to coaches all throughout the offseason like they come August and September they’re only starting to form plans in their mind like well how you know how might these lineups look and then they get to camp and it’s like you know wow this group looks CR wow that rookie looks awesome you know but I would I mean if I had to predict I think ke Keon Ellis probably is the start starting two but you know what if Alex kuso was on this team maybe he’s the starting two um but the truth is like Malik monk knows he’s coming back to a high minutes role he profiles more as a bench scorer who like electrifies the game in the middle of the first and third quarters I don’t think he necessarily loves that long term but he’s he’s reasonable and rational enough and clearly right he just signed back without any guarantees of what his role is so he understands like his place in the league Anthony Slater you can check him out in the athletic Anthony really appreciate your time man we’ll do it again soon all right fellas see man Anthony Slater there he goes check out his piece with Sam Amic in the athletic tons of good uh Kings news and notes in there uh I’m off the ledge about Daren Fox see I told you we’re good now we’re good we’ve done it I’m off the ledge even Anthony say yeah don’t stress that’s not what that is he’s like wait you what why why yeah I’m glad you cleared that Up’s like that’s not what that was okay this is what it really was yeah so he basically he said and that was my ER and that’s why I want to talk to him is he plainly said it’s not like clock is ticking it’s just he’s not going to seed control to the kings in that in this situation but it’s the same thing we brought up Brandon iuk there’s a reason Brandon iuk didn’t take the first offer the 49ers handed to him he’s gonna wait and see he’s going to try and retain some leverage yeah I think that’s all it is we’re good off the ledge I’m off thege we’re good honestly the most concerning thing he said was before the break when he said he wouldn’t pay Tua that was crazy yeah that was kind of a dagger right there like I get it I definitely get it but also you have to yeah I it’s so okay here this is um Scotty Barnes yesterday and you know what real quick hang on Scotty Barnes that’s him classic agreed to a fiveyear 270 million doll extension and I had a couple different group chats I saw some people on on Twitter I think up people in the chatty house I brought it up yesterday I was like it’s Scotty Barn’s a max type player right is he thatp but you have to pay him you’re Toronto you’ve done everything you’ve done over the last 18 months has been about oh Scotty Barnes is our dude we’re building everything around Scotty Barnes he might be the face of the NBA according to their C maybe he goes to the room with Force I’ve heard but you have you there there’s a certain guy you have to go pay them it’s the same thing it’s the same reason that kings are are going to until until dear and fox signs an extension are going to sign him to whatever amount of money he wants M or whatever amount of money they can they can give him whether the kings make the playoffs the next two years or don’t or whatever it is De Fox is gonna be a Max guy yeah yeah and that’s the same thing that’s like with Tua he’s just hey you have to pay that guy I you’re saying it why you get to pay Tua you have to you have to yeah I guess you don’t get you get to pay Patrick Mahomes hey all yeah that’s fair you get to payri moms yeah those the only guys if prob four guys you get to pay take this off your plate and I’ll put it on it you have to pay Brock py yeah I get you like the ners are going to pay whether whether he has a great season or a bad season like yeah hey you know what he’s getting 60 plus million dollars next year because that’s just how this works because trying to find is is is Brock pie or Tua or Scotty Barnes worth the same amount of money as the other people making that making that making money in that range probably not but you have to keep that guy around because trying to find a replacement trying to find a better one isn’t like on the table yeah yeah I just don’t understand why in the NFL why does anyone make more money than Patrick Mahomes honestly I don’t know like I look at Trevor Lawrence’s contract Dak party like Tua gonna get 60 Tu is gonna get 60 part’s gonna get all these guys are gonna make so much more money than Patrick Mahomes and it doesn’t make any sense to me yeah like yeah you got to reset the market no you don’t you don’t have to no R all say no like let if if two and this is what I’ve said about the Dolphins what it’s what I’ve said about the Niners in a team would never do this the same reason the Raptors would never do this with Scotty Barnes the same reason the Kings would never do it with dearon fox go okay yeah you go find that in free agency then because they might there’s a team out there that needs a quarterback or a point guard or a small forward power forward hybrid or whatever that’s going to go yeah I’ll pay market rate for that guy I know what he looks like in the NFL I’ll go I’ll go I’ll go pay that guy we need some good old running back collusion for the quarterback position facts well they already kind of did that with deshun Watson that’s true got 230 million fully guaranteed guys doing Cleveland never doing that again um no we just talked with Anthony Slater of the athletic I want to talk more about the quarterback stuff later yeah yeah should have gotten into that with with slats but it’s fine um I do think he made an interesting point that I think I I personally have overlooked if you have then this is not on you this is on me but the value of a player like Alex Caruso or Bruce brown or because so much of of what I’ve viewed about the Kings and so much of my my it’s kind of been a one-track thought process of you just got to get better you got to get better players you need size you need athleticism you need Wings you need this and that but like first of all every team needs those things except maybe Boston but every every other team needs Wing depth and size and and athleticism that’s just the the going thing in the NBA always ask yeah yeah but man if Alex Caro if you plug in Alex Caruso for Davon Mitchell last year are the Kings three wins better what’s the thing is Caruso four wins better what if you insert him into the starting lineup where Keon Nell is kind of filled in and you got him him and fox in that back court I feel like defensively that’s pretty solid right there and then you got M coming off the bench because like like I said yesterday I kind of like like kuso like that was it huh but like like after hearing Anthony and just the way they probably work out like that would have been solid yeah they because I think my Folly here I think Keon do you think Keon could play the Davon role yeah I think Keon can do basically anything that sounded crazy I think I think I think Keon could realistically whatever role they needed to fill he could he could fill that I think that’s fair um I don’t know if I want him like running the point necessarily with with the ball in his hands all the time but defensively for sure I think he’s more versatile defensively uh and if you’re adding a player who gives you defensive versatility who can credibly play on offense she’s like yeah you got significantly better at that point yeah and if he brought up Anthony Slater brought up like Bruce brown man Bruce Brown would have really helped the Kings last year and I think I’ve gotten so focused on hey how do we how do you get this team to how do you get him to compete with with Denver and Boston and the upper it’s like yo get him into the playoffs first well you kind of look like I mentioned Dallas the other day you look at Dallas they’re Kyrie and Luca but like their other guys aren’t necessarily like PJ Wasington is not this Elite role player it was guys who worked like on the team or whatever they just ran into matchups like I think like that’s something the Kings can do yeah that’s where and that’s where Alex Caruso being able to do just kind of like a little bit of everything would have helped yeah Bruce Brown can go get you a bucket tenacious Defender not super tall but I think he can help and obviously that you know size and athleticism and stuff still plays you still need that yeah but I also think that where I’ve aired here or where I where my brain goes is hey if they’re not adding a herb Jones type of player a male Bridges type of player you know that that that rangy Wing who can knock down a three and he’s going to play great defense then they’re just going to be the same team and it’s like no they’re not they’re not yeah I mean they were is like because making playoffs that’s not making playoffs that’s tough but you look at it like there were 46 wins like their floor is high there were 46 wins with inexplicable losses like at home to Charlotte never really found your footing all year either yeah just a it was a it was a weird year um but I do I do think that there has to be I don’t think they can draft somebody at 13 and then be like yeah they’re just GNA be the ninth guy and we’re just gonna run it back like that that I do not agree with with like Kenny thinks that they’re a playoff team if they run it back yeah I think right now as it is they’re a playing team who could maybe make it into the playoffs but that’s I won’t I won’t say you’re top six because to me if you’re a playoff team you’re top six yeah yeah I’m with you I do still think they trade the 13th pick who it’s four I don’t know maybe it is a Kyle kma type of move but come find out at Tom’s watch bar if they do tomorrow that’s such what a pro five o’clock we will be out at Tom’s watch bar um me Jesse Charlie o DLo KC Joe from promotions we’re all going to be out there just having a good time talking hoop Vibes will be up no matter what good food good drinks we’ll be watching the draft um out there nothing live but just talking ball uh it should be a ton of fun so come come out come say what’s up um what’s the thing that could happen that The Vibes would be the highest I guess because the top players maybe Brandon ingr is the king but I think all things consider I’ll go kozma kozma is the one where it’s like that’s the least we’d have to give up probably I think if everything works out I think it’s kozma I think kma because we haven’t really talked about any other names like it’s not Zack Zack leavine gets traded to the Kings we might Vibes be Downes that’d be bad yeah uh I think it’s Ingram because more people know who bi is yeah that’s kind of like what I was thinking but but also if it’s Brandon Ingram and a ton of assets then I think it’s like oh that’s kind of oh that’s a lot versus if it’s kman it’s the 13th pick and some kind of future pick and herder yeah yeah I think it’s like oh man that’s so I think that what what could make the Vibes the worst take Zach at 13 Zach is the guy you take Zach 13 or whatever Johnny FY Johnny Fury joh FY at at 13 is the lowest Vibes possible yeah you take somethingone like that or whatever because at least Zach Ed is unique at least he’s seven foot 12 I’m not against the taking like making the pick either but it has to be someone because like Monte’s been very good at like drafting NBA ready guys that can contribute whether it’s like hitting the three playing defense you can take guys who contribute just if you could talk me like this guy will contribute he’ll do this this and that like all right like I don’t love it but fine but if it’s like Zach e or whatever it’s like play not right now bro we gotta make playoffs we need playoffs like I don’t know if he could play maybe he can but we need to make playoffs I need someone like he’s gonna play KOB Walter or something like that who they think can come play 15 minutes yeah right away yeah maybe I’d be so hyped if it his Zack Ed vies would be up for me Vibes would be up for me if that happened see you’ll be at Tom’s tomorrow with oh yeah Zach e everyone’s gonna look at you start booing No One’s Gonna watch us on Thursday and then they’ll see me on Monday with my Zach Jersey on I guess you’re gonna have to lead that that bandwagon Johnny Fury would be the lowest Vibes what do they take bronny on Thursday hilarious that’s oh sh Chris throwing that um idea they threw bronnie greater than Ed but yeah what do they think what do they they won’t take bronnie first what do they take him in the second round I’d be so down I’d be down for it too to be honest that’d be fun I feel like what a cool story yeah you go play in Stockton for a bit develop yeah be be the highest attended G League games of the year for sure I’ll go to stockt then and watch Bron definitely I definitely would for sure uh hey we have to hit a break we’ll keep talking Kings and NBA draft next on ESPN 1320 Sacramento sports ler hello Charlie hello there yes good interview thanks I like that light is good new looking for him thanks but I’ll bring you all the information from the I can’t wait it looks so fun out there what we think we cut out so we can you longer okay yeah so uh yeah we can talk about it because I was messing with it last night and I think I got it but I didn’t want to do anything without so we can go over it didn’t save anything um so I still have the full donut okay um it’s just cutting out basically the first part and me saying sponsored by Jiffy Lube and then having the long read at the end but we can talk about it if that works just go with okay I’ll try it we’ll see how it sounds I’m sorry to be so difficult no get yourself a boss like Charlie it’s facts Charlie’s the best I went from and this is not like one better than the other or anything yeah yeah just different experiences with different bosses I went from I I and Matt Haagen is my dude big maten guy who works in 957 but he’s very like like he was a producer so he’s very Hands-On he loves producing and so he’s still very Hands-On with all the shows um and is just I mean I learned so much from Charlie is just on the polar opposite where he’s like yeah whatever you guys are doing I’m into it like if we if we were doing something terrible he would be like hey like maybe not Charlie just trust us yeah yeah works out it does it’s great Kyle that made me laugh I got you next time Charlie’s in here I got you doing what he wants something to say mbling because I think that’s the water boy right Mama’s wrong I agree with this like can you imagine they get to the 13th pick and it’s like trade and everybody’s like oh here we go and they’re like it’s Zack LaVine he’s like that’s what I’m saying oh all right Zach welcome to the team I’d talk myself into it by Monday well yeah he’s not a bad player just I would fully talk myself into it by Monday yeah it’s kind of Chris stops like you hope he’s healthy and if he is like hopefully he fits in if he does we’re cooking I guess so hey see this is exactly what amir’s got me this is exactly the kind of stuff I’d be saying like hey can you imagine see but like can you imagine the other team on a fast break because we’re not really playing defense that day no that’s why you got Keon dear’s a good Defender here we go hour number two that’s Jesse Topia I’m Kyle Madson James ham out on assignment this week he will be back with us on Monday to break down whatever the heck is going on with the kings in free agency in the draft round one of the NBA draft is tomorrow we will be out at Tom’s watch bar in doco right across from Golden One Center first round begins uh we we will be out there at 5:00 p.m. yes so come hang out have a drink have some food talk a little ball it’s uh it’s always a good time when when everybody pulls up so hope to see everybody out there and also right around the corner is the Cal classic the California classic right here at Golden One center that is July 6 and 7th and July 9th California classic really gets me through the summer yeah it’s it feels like totally inconsequential basketball yes but but I’m so here for it basketball and like Sacramento does it right like the time they did take it to San Francisco I’m not trying to hate like wasn’t the best yeah no circ*mstances where they won the Rings now it’s co times after but just here like people show up they sell it out sometimes stuff like that it’s just perfect yeah it’s a it’s a really good time July 6 and 7th and July 9th are when the games are at uh Golden One center for the California classic uh we’re giving away tickets we’re giving away a four pack of three-day passes so four passes that get you into each day of the California classic July 6th and 7th and July 9 you can go to ESPN 1320 uh.com to win those passes you have a chance to win four three-day passes to see three days of competition and entertainment at golden golden one center with top players in the NBA the upand cominging top players anding the future of the NBA is on display at Golden One Center and you can win tickets by going to ESPN 1320 the kings make the 13th pick maybe he will be there Keegan played in summer league he did up I’m I’m like Pro like hey throw the third year guy out the second year guy out there like let him tear it up for a bit let him go for 40 each game yeah one game two games why not yeah get a little run in if you’re gonna if you’re GNA go to a run out at UCLA with just maybe some like NBA guys and some randos you can come out to Summer League you can come play organized Hope come hang out yeah anyways uh I don’t think he gonna be playing this year you think you think he can go for 100 in a summer league game yeah well this year like Keegan Mar thir year you can go for 100 if he tried like hey fellas like Keegan’s going to take every shot like maybe you’ll get some or whatever but we’re going for wil’s record today oh if he’s if he doesn’t if it’s um if it’s just Keegan is trying to score 100 points Nothing Else Matters Noah had the paint Pritcher like 92 in a proam that one time ball in high school one time went for a crazy amount like I’m gonna say no because although if he got hot from three like what if he goes for 50 in the first half if he goes if he gets hot from three and makes like 15 or 16 threes that’s basically half the points can he get to the free throw line 10 times 100’s a lot of points bro that’s so many like Wilt did that because he was just so much bigger and more dominant than everybody Keegan would dominate on a on a in a summer league scenario for sure but 100 points I feel like we got to lower it to like 81 is the new number you need to reach now yeah that I think he could do yeah like that’s a lot more reasonable that’s my favorite bit on Twitter too like someone like post a clip about Babe Ruth or something it’s like yeah so we got this but no Wilt clip of him scoring 100 huh like hey makes thing makes you think it’s so funny I also like the bit where because there’s that famous photo of Wilt holding up the 100 anytime anyone does anything holding up a paper with a number on it oh yeah yeah oh it’s really good it’s really really good if I scored a point in an NBA game catch me with the one if I score a point in an NBA game carry me off the court like I just won the final th% give me the lario Brian to take off I’m I’m the great if I’m F like five six me scores a point NBA game I’m better than Michael Jordan facts that’s easy if you stepped on to an NBA floor right now and scored yeah you’re one all time to me yeah if I go out and I don’t get injured and I survive Jesse Tapia one LeBron 2 mj3 throw banner up in some someone’s ceiling or whatever Jesse Tapia survived NBA minute I I get so I get so mad like irrationally I get so irrationally mad when even like Pro like Michael Parsons going like yeah I could hit I could hit 20 homers in in MLB no you couldn’t you a th% could not I could hit 200 in MLB no you can’t yeah no no chance no yeah at all randier Ros Arena’s been an All-Star he’s not batting 200 this year he might be now he’s been good in June but for a long stretch this year he wasn’t about like that’s crazy Rando if you played college hoop and you went to an NBA game and um your only goal the team’s only goal was like Hey we’re gonna get this guy a bucket then I think he could probably get a bucket a bucket if that was the team’s only goal but you or me I don’t want to J did you play college basketball I didn’t I didn’t me neither shocking yeah didn’t even try surpris didn’t want to overshadow the other guys sure sure sure sure sure sure um we’re not no chance Rando person has no chance if cuz one of my one of my buddies played in high school and he’s like I could get a threea if you let me hang out in the corner and get threes up I would make one eventually and it’s like okay sure but is the other team trying to stop you yeah is the other team trying to make sure you don’t score sending that to the fourth row every time every time dude Zion Williamson is jumping from that corner of the three to you and it’s going to the upper deck I would if I’m holding the basketball if I catch it and somebody’s close enough Derek white is swatting that out of my hand before I get into my shooting motion yeah he’s catch he’s not even swatting he’s just catching it it’s just yeah but let’s let’s operate as though I get the ball yeah yeah I can’t dribble it because the second it goes out of my hand that Ball’s gone it’s imagine Davon Mitchell like playing defense on you picking you up full no I don’t want to M that sounds like hell I don’t want to do that there’s a reason I stand here and talk about the people doing that you mentioned your buddy who says you can hit a three or whatever like is it’s always fun to have that one friend’s like yeah I could do that because they talk so confidently or whatever like I got a buddy’s like yeah I could get a c um I could get a catch off Deion Sanders if I wanted to you’re just kind of sitting there huh wait what it makes me so irrationally mad yeah it shouldn’t matter it doesn’t matter like nobody has ever my my friend who thinks he could hit a three in an NBA game it’s like yeah you know what if you’re wide open in the corner if you’re in an empty gym standing in the corner yeah for sure you could knock down an NBA 3 I have no doubt yeah eventually one would go in but the people who are like yeah I could I I could run for five yards in NFL game no chance you would have zero chance yeah go stand on the sideline at a college game watch how fast those dudes move you’re just cooked after that you’re done bro I the amount of work the amount of work imagine Patrick Queen shooting down the middle trying to K him hit you you’re dead you’re fumbling on purpose to hope he doesn’t hit you I’ll say right like imagine Randy Johnson at this age right now going up to the mound and you’re up there he’s still gonna throw 90 pass bro and when he’s releasing it he’s like 30 feet you dude no no way no way I you know how hard a professional athletes work to be professional athlet that’s facts they do that every day every day I thought I worked hard playing baseball for year round travel ball from the time I was 12 all the way up through high school I had no chance and I thought I was like man I put in work like no I don’t 10-year-old us yeah Mom I think I’m I think I could really make the MLS All right like I’m not putting in work I go to Burger King before every game like I’m not putting is chicken fingers please so just the audacity of people like yeah I could do that no you oh yeah yeah it’s like they’re Pros they’re because they make it look easy you have no chance no at all shout out to those people’s confidence though I I wish I had it I wish I had that level of confidence hey can you in this pro league nope don’t even ask don’t ask yeah no I can’t I have no chance yeah there’s that thing that’s like could you win The Masters if you only had to putt so you get the ball you get to place the ball at the furthest part of the green and you only have to putt but everybody else is playing from from the from the t’s it’s like no no I’m bogging every time at least at minimum yeah you know how hard those greens are what do I do when I put it too hard and it goes into the rough what am I supposed to do then what I do happen which is gonna happen yeah man anyways I don’t know how we got on this tangent what were we talking about summerly California classic that’s right go to ESPN 1320.com go get your tickets a pro you can hear Jesse on Dow and casc coming up at noon we’re going to hit a break we’ll have good idea or bad idea when we come back and we’ll keep talking about uh NBA offseason stuff I want to keep talking about that I want to pick up that NFL quarterback contract conversation as well that’s Jesse I’m Kyle we’re on ESPN 1320 Sacramento sports leater bro this is this is it well yeah game on the line you throw it to me in the corner on the deck I’m kicking it out yes I don’t want this smoke like like Mike where Calvin camri is passing it back and forth with the other player like no don’t give this to me in semipro doing the entry pass yeah no no no I’m not feeling it I’m not feeling it back to you back to you big gu back you know what Michael Scott Paper Company 40 turnovers in six fouls in NBA game that’d be a solid night for all of us because you know it wasn’t 41 turnovers I don’t know who’s watching the eurs later but I got a good feeling England’s going to lose oh snap yeah there was a little pressure on that game and England just folds anytime there’s pressure actually they advanc never mind I thought they were still competing I still think they lose though I don’t know t i was the last pick of the NFL draft and like I got the the opportunity to sign some crazy contract I’m taking every penny I can get being better Sports job left-handed reliever or backup quarterback backup quarterback I want to be Chase Daniel imagine being Jim sorgi like you’re just paid Manning’s backup and if you play like no one’s expecting anything from you talking watching Jim sorgi right now there’s no chance he made more than 105 million okay well hold up yeah mat I the US looks good I Brazil doesn’t look great if they can play like against Colombia or the Argentinas of the tournament they might do something as much as it pains me to say how the hell oh there we go TCG I feel like being NFL kicker is the worst because you mi you miss too you’re out the league and everyone hates you forever yeah this would be the best test right there for we’ll know definitely for sure after this game I think hey it’s backup quarterback for sure it’s got to be a crazy number to the Insiders brought to you by Jiffy Lube on ESPN 1320 we’ll get a good idea or about it in a second like you made like a noise when you saw the number so it’s got to be something absurd for Jim sori too no so I didn’t do Jim I didn’t do Jim sori okay all right I did uh or Jim sori sorgi I think okay I don’t know he never played that’s the point so I I asked Jesse at the break if you would rather like the better Sports job left-handed reliever or backup quarterback and you went backup QB full stop yeah if I’m left-handed relever I could still give up three home runs and I’m done right I theoretically yes uh these don’t line up exactly but I went and checked Javier Lopez San Francisco Giants Legend played 10 years of Major League Baseball uh started his career in 2003 with the Rockies pitched a couple years for your Red Sox couple years for the Pirates and then was with the Giants for six seasons um he made $ 28.1 million in his career that’s not bad no it’s not definitely not bad especially the way they get paid their first few years in the career you brought up Chase Daniel yeah Chase Daniel’s gotta be at least 40 I think Chase Daniel in his 13-year NFL career made $ 41.8 million my gu I’m telling you Chase Daniel is the like ski Mas Hall of Famer yeah he’s just he’s just like whatever like the he’s the first ballot first entry of the backup quarterback Hall of Fame for as far as bad Getters too he is he the yeah no he’s the new when you think of backup quarterback for a long time for me growing up it was Charlie Whitehurst Charlie Whitehurst was like backup quarterback Charlie Whitehurst what about him I was a big senica Wallace guy oh hey on Madden when you do the franchise mode yeah yeah because senica Wallace cost like4 dollar he was so cheap he us do the just poor man’s Michael Vic thing that’s it run around throw deep that’s it that’s all it is love sen wall shut up um good idea or bad idea we do this every single day three things going on in the world and we decide whether that thing is a good idea or bad idea Jesse number one caror McDavid on the losing Ed Oilers last night Conor MCN clutch did not have a point in either game six or game seven of the Oilers Stanley Cup Final loss to the Florida Panthers but he won the K SMI trophy which in the NHL is the playoff MVP uh he was Sensational in the playoffs the two biggest games of the year though didn’t have a point um good idea or bad idea to give that award to Conor McDavid and not Sergey bosski good idea to give it to Conor McDavid because like this is what the award in tailes like he earned it or whatever bad idea to make it all playoffs though it should be like a Finals MVP type of award because then you end up with this awkward situation yeah and I but I like because he he was putting up historic numbers this Poston like he was Far Away the best player correct yeah yeah he was incredible like it’s just I feel like that’s just the way like he he earned it but like I think the NHL needs to make the parameters probably a little bit more strict or whatever you want to do it where like like this doesn’t happen well the guys were talking about it on the on the intermission report there were saying yeah if the Oilers win Conor McDavid should be the KMI winner and bosi should win it if uh bosi is the the Panthers go under if if Florida wins then then he should be the winner and it’s like isn’t that just Finals MVP basically or the final MVP it’s a Stanley Cup Final not finals isn’t that just the final MVP pretty much because if you’re G to be the MVP of the playoffs you have to probably play all the rounds and then at that point it’s whoever’s team that sounds like the final MVP me yeah you just have to literally write it in the rule book yeah it goes think if the NBA had done it that way would Jaylen Brown have still won the NBA version of that award like what do you mean if there was an NBA version of the K Smite oh I got you would Jaylen Brown have been the winner yeah or would it have been Luca luuka might have won it Luka might yeah I guess if we’re going off NHL rules Luka might have won it you see it’s a bad idea to do it that way that’s tough yeah that’s really tough what do you even do with it if you’re Conor McDavid I mean it’s still still like I mean because you did tear it up in the playoffs but you did lose yeah you can’t put it up and you didn’t have any points in the last two games no goals no assists give it to your parents oh that’s a good one yeah gift that to them thank you for everything you’ve done go put in the loft or whatever like he’s got MVP Trophies he’s got a bunch of stuff we’ll give it to your parents they’ll appreciate that number two Brandon auk requested a meeting with the 49ers andit his contract negotiations still no news about what came out from that meeting but it is a thing that happened good idea bad idea by Brandon iuk to request that meeting good idea I think it’s good that they’re still talking and all that make sure you’re on the same page or if you’re not try to figure out what’s going on at least get some clarity on what’s going on with them how do you feel about that you think like it’s it’s it’s out there in the open and he’s been on social media and stuff like everything’s been kind of reported for us like how do you think this SS up I think he signs yeah I think so too like I don’t like I said my kneejerk reaction yesterday because this is the kind of person I am is I’m a worst case scenario that’s just immediately where I jump and I went oh my God he wants a meeting with him he’s telling him he’s requesting a trade he’s not going like this is a disaster but in reality it’s probably what you said auk probably had some like hey I saw a reporting on this and that uh I put out this Tik Tok video let’s get face to face on this instead of going because contract negotiations typically go as I understand it team talks to agent agent relays that to player agent is the intermediary between player and front office and this I’m guessing auk’s agent was in the building but it’s getting that face to face with your bosses and trying to get some kind of clarity and some stability on what what is happening here yeah are we negotiating still what’s the are we on some kind of timeline what what is this I think it’s the right thing to do yeah if they weren’t talking I feel like that’d be a much bigger issue than something like this like Chef St just crold or whatever whatever yeah if he was gonna demand a trade he would he would just do it so I think worst case scenario uh everything falls through and whatever ground they had to stand on is now gone and he goes I’ll play out my rookie deal but then I’m done I’m never coming back best case scenario he walks out with a contract in hand yeah I think no matter what he’s just he’s not playing somewhere else this year I don’t think no I think there’s I think there’s the real best case in Erica he’s not going to get a contract probably on the strength of this meeting is just getting to a point where hey taking out some of the the haze of of whatever this negotiation has been getting all the media stuff out there getting all the takes and the thoughts and opin out because I’m sure if if I was auke I’d be on social media too and I’m sure he sees the responses I’m sure he gets tagged and stuff on Instagram and Twitter or whatever and he wanted to talk to the Niners and go hey where are you guys at here’s where I’m at and then we can negotiate from this place of good faith so I think what’s going to happen is come the end of July maybe into early August depending uh we’re going to get uh an announcement from the 49ers that uh I report from somebody that the Niners and iuk have agreed to a deal um deos contract negotiations going to training camp too yeah but he did a hold in okay so he was there but just not working out and my guess is uh that’s kind of how the auk thing goes if they don’t have it solved by then yeah because that’s what I’m thinking I don’t think it’s anything to really stress about right now yeah it just it was It was kind of wild it just out of nowhere it’s like oh hey they’re meeting now what a weird thing but yeah I think it’s ultimately a good idea if it keeps things from getting ugly yeah um then uh then that’s fine uh number JJ reck says he’s out of the content game bad idea JJ Coe content over any everything all right imagine the postgame pod against the Clippers LeBron what happened I ran the play for here for you to take the shot but you passed it to ad what happened I think if you could this is the thing I would try and do if I was JJ reck I don’t think anybody in the league or team would go for it but this is what I would try to do because I’m with you Coe content over everything the pro the thing is is JJ reck can go have a popular podcast whenever he wants whenever he decides to start podcasting again or quit coaching and start people are G to subscribe and he’s gonna be fine alleged failed podcaster but could you could you replace press conferences with a podcast where hey we’re not going to do this live on TV we’re going to record this thing like what do you mean like wi horse and all those guys are just sitting around yeah or is it just JJ and LeBron J no it’s JJ and credential media I don’t I don’t I don’t hate I don’t hate that because I’m thinking like here in Sacramento like Mike Brown Sean cam James ham we throw the guys in there they’re just got Mike’s they’re just in there poding honest that might be the best way to get like real answers too where like everyone just kind of cool heads like hey James like this is what happened blah blah blah blah blah like not live on TV you might be cooking with something right here it’s not it’s not adversarial like the one guy’s at the table and everybody else is in the like no everyone just just kind of sit around sit whatever you want we’re chilling maybe we set these meetings up for the next morning and we’ll release it at like noon yeah I think you got to do it right after the right after okay yeah you still gotta get it and I think you publish it ASAP I gotta but that way it’s Best of Both Worlds man yeah you might be on a hey we’re we’re we’re driving media here at 1320 I’m anide I’m an ideas man um no obviously like I said nobody would ever go for that but realistically it is a good idea JJ’s not doing it’s a correct thing to do I hate the Draymond does a podcast I think if you’re an active player and you’re going to do a pod I think it’s just dangerous because it’s so rare that you’re going to say anything where people are like wow I’m so glad that that that this player and if you want to use a platform and have a platform great fine but if you’re a coach you can’t do that can’t you you just have to be the adult in the room you can’t because Draymond can come out and talk all the crap he wants about Rudy gobear and people are gonna be like that’s weird but okay sure man if a Coach came out and did that yes you can’t do that yeah 100% no good on JJ reck uh rooting for him I guess I I I I’m yet okay sure I guess I don’t know if JJ I hope you do as good as a job as you’re able to but I hope you don’t do they’re not gonna win the finals yeah that’s fine Championship good luck to you JJ yeah yeah that’s just it I hope if he has real aspirations of coaching it’s just on a human level forget the sports hate thing for a minute on a human level if he has aspirations to be a coach he’s like yes I want to be a great coach one day then I hope this goes well enough for him that this isn’t his one shot to to be a coach I’m got to go to break right now B I think he set up to fail for this job I agree I don’t think I don’t see I don’t see any way he’s successful where it’s like LeBron retires like oh yeah JJ is gonna take us forward or whatever I don’t think it that’s the only way to me that’s the only way you can hire him though is if there’s that understanding that post LeBron that this is going to be your coach because you have to start setting stuff up now you have to start putting those pieces in place and and and building that Foundation but they’re not going to if it’s hey it’s LeBron and AD we’re pushing all the eggs in and if you don’t win a title then you’re gone in two years like man that sucks that sounds awful you’re more likely to get a Trey young type that pieces for three years from now yeah exactly it’s not gonna work tough anyways all right back to the sports a thing tough to see it for the Lakers boy yeah I hope it goes horribly I’ll be watching I’ll be watching hoping it goes bad I’ll be downal yeah all right uh we got into some quarterback contract stuff earlier I want to get into that and we’ll have the handoff coming up as well I believe it is a d day today yeah yeah Casey was in here yesterday yeah so we’ll have Damen Barling in here in about 15 minutes that’s Jesse Topia I’m kads and we’re the producers on ESPN 1320 ESPN 1320 Sports later that’s facts can I go now yep okay dude that was a panic I was like yes is all right uh one two about three what up chatty gang oh shoot sorry guys my bad sorry Ramsey thanks for thanks for the heads up yeah it’d be a real real bummer it didn’t work out for them dude Jesse called it this one time and I was like that’s brilliant that’s what we’re calling this Zeo I don’t know if you noticed yesterday but a bunch of your family called in we go hey Scooter my man appreciate you I hope you’re talking to me and not Kyle rard although if you are talking to the other Kyle that’s cool too I appreciate you supporting Kyle my man oh hey uh Dave in Stockton right not mod I’m not going to Modesto if it’s in Stockton [Music] what am I doing on Friday do I have anything going on on Friday might be able to swing that do you know what my wife’s job is doing for uh like team building activity now what are they doing they’re on a boat in the San francisc Bay playing games and getting served lunch nice like trivia that’s fire that sounds like so much fun yeah you know what my fiance’s team building work is doing they’re going to Tahoe for the day we’ll be at the park SS great we’ll be at the park next week though hey have you looked at the weather I haven’t is 103 VI’s gonna be up though sorry I didn’t mean to turn your mic off uh I have I have had a job outside of sports I worked at a uh video streaming company uh called stretch internet um we hosted like like video streams like this but it was a lot of college sports um and when people had trouble with their video or their internet or their equipment or whatever I was the customer support person they called uh was super small company had a super fun time um but wanted to do this so I moved home all right br yes now back to the Insiders with James ham and Kyle Madson brought to you by Jiffy Lube on ESPN 1320 no James ham Jesse Topia James ham is On Assignment vibing out he vibing yeah somewhere on the beach one of James is watching oh is James watching James if you’re watching send a message in the chat yeah hit the hit the chat if you’re not if you’re not signed into YouTube you can text I hope he’s not watching maybe he’s just lounging by the pool you think yeah maybe I don’t know wait someone threw a flag on stretch internet no no that’s silly that’s silly that’s too far Jake take a lap Jake Bon back I will I will I will own it when I say something crazy but I worked at a place that it’s no longer in existence it was called stretch internet the video streaming company yeah I know go the guy who founded the company was tall all right you just relax though just start leaning into it anyways um we were talking a little bit about the quarterback contract stuff earlier so you’re all in on Tu a Tong of vioa making $6 million a year I’m in on that because yes that is the rule you pay quarterbacks what they’re worth and not what what the market says they’re worth but honestly like I don’t think any of these guys should be making more than what Trevor Lawrence’s got like I don’t think like I don’t I’m like it is because you’re like that in on Trevor Lawrence well no it’s just like Trevor Lawrence is making an absurd amount of money I don’t even think he’s that great either like not saying that two is not like two I think is better than Trevor lawren and all that Brock py but now we’re getting to where these guys are making absurd amounts of money like you said like more than Pat mahom sometimes and all that like there needs to be something where like like I don’t know need to be like a cap or something like that it’s the only they’re they’re they’re getting paid more than their ability shows I think like like like maybe you pay like the top four for me like Elite Four that are like for sure like you put them on any team they’re great Josh Allen Patrick mAh I think Lamar would be good and then um Joe Joe burrow like those are the four for me those that’s one tier right there like those guys you paying whatever you want but like now we’re paying just whoever 60 million now and then like two is a great quarterback he’s top 10 but I do think like there is a cap where it does like you do need to cap it because it’s gonna hurt the team eventually so average annual value Joe burrow is number one at 55 Trevor Lawrence also comes in at 55 Lawrence and Burl basically got the same contract yeah Burl got a little bit more guaranteed Jared Goff is making 53 a year Justin Herbert 52 and a half Lamar Jackson 52 Jaylen Herz 51 um Kyler Murray 46.1 Kirk Cousins making 45 deshun Watson 46 see Patrick momes 45 million annually with only 63 million guaranteed but he’s got that yeah yeah silly ass contract that is going to pay him a bunch of money said Trevor Lawrence is like 53 or 55 either or like pretty like pretty to like that’s the tier the they don’t need to be 6560 million I just don’t know why I don’t know why the NFL is the only League that does this well yeah we’re gonna pay Dak Prescott all this money he’s gonna be the highest paid quarterback in the league and for what we ever left a playoff game like oh Dak really tore it up you’re out on Dak yes I’m not paying him all that money like why why why he’s not even a top five quarterback and he’s going to set reset the market because what’s your other option I I get that Dak is a player who I think would get paid I think if yeah you pay him I’m I know I’m fighting a losing battle though because you do have to pay these guys but it’s just absurd to me that’s that’s the weird yes that’s the weird part is why did Patrick Mahomes not set the market and everybody goes okay this is just what we’re working around now yeah why are we trying to top that now I don’t understand and this just H in the NFL this is how it goes hey this line backer is really good but he’s not as good as this linebacker who’s making that much money but he’s got to reset the market that’s just that doesn’t like no it doesn’t make any s in the NBA it’s not it doesn’t it doesn’t quite work in the NBA because of the way the max salaries work and you can only have there’s hard caps and certain aprons and all this other stuff and then there’s a maximum amount you can offer a guy it’s not like the NFL where if you want to give a quarterback 100% of your cap you can you just don’t have any other players right yeah that wouldn’t exactly work but understand what I mean yeah yeah um you can pay the guy as much as you want to while Fielding a team in the NBA that’s not necessarily the case but when it comes to guys like Scotty Barnes who’s making five and 270 yeah you got to give him that whether you think he’s worth it or not it’s just kind of how it has to go yeah but it’s just I don’t know NFL’s got to be different like they they it’s just Dak Prescott is just we like pick him because like he is the guy who’s going to like supposed to paid all this money or whatever he has never been a top five quarterback in the league he has some playoff success meaning a playoff went here and there but like he’s not he’s not even on that first tier I think with the burrow and those guys so this is what this is what I don’t understand he’s almost I don’t want to be too disrespectful but like playing for the Cowboys is doing a lot for him too like he’s good but he’s closer to Kurt Cousins than he is the top yeah but kurk cousins isn’t bad he’s not bad but like Kurt Cousins isn’t going to set the quarterback Market though no he’s made a ton of money though yeah um no and this this is where I get a little bit tangled up because you have you can’t you can’t not pay the quarterback but at the same time you have a running back Market that’s plummeting and everybody goes with quarterback is the most important position said then why does so many not that good ones get paid anytime like Daniel Jones is making $40 million a year for what he got you to the playoffs that one year shout out to the Blake Mortals of the world who got their contracts after a crazy playoff year Derek he’s making he’s making the same amount of money as Matt Stafford Daniel Jones Daniel Jones is yes see that’s ridiculous and the same amount as Dak Prescott yeah that’s insane Dak Prescott is not Daniel Jones I will say that like Derek Carr making $ 37 half million do that sounds like a lot but when you start taking into account that there’s all these dudes making 45 50 plus it’s like okay but dude when it comes to guys like Tua or let’s here let’s keep this local and do Brock pie Brock I I I believe is and I’m not just to get everybody on the same page of where I’m at I’m not a brock PR as a top five or 10 guy I’m not there I’m sorry I think he’s top half I’ll go top 10 I think okay yeah I if if in the in the context of of production from last year then yeah sure but I think like in a vacuum are we paying this guy or not I think he’s top 16 like I said top half of the league and maybe he’s better this year he’ll have a full off season he’s not worried about his arm rehab um he’s got another year with all of his with all his weapons like maybe maybe he’ll be better sure maybe um but also if he’s just the same guy or a little bit worse he’s still gonna make 60 million a year easy and the question for me is okay you’re you’re making him the franchise guy what happens when George K’s gone what happens when Debo’s gone what happens when CMC is gone are you are you all of a sudden trying to build this New Foundation out of now you don’t have as much money to play with because your quarterback isn’t making $12 an hour and that’s the that’s like the that’s like the Eternal question of can we pay this quarterback this much money can this quarterback elevate a roster that is maybe going to be not the best roster in the league at some point in the next couple of years can Brock py continue can he Elevate Ricky piol can he Elevate Ronnie Bell I think Brandon I’s gonna be around so we know what he can do with Brandon iuk but that’s that’s the question is can you continue building out a team when you have a player making this big of a percentage of the cap a player of this caliber making that big of percentage of the cap that’s what I’m saying it’s a losing batt because like honestly like unless it’s like I said the top four or whatever like I said I think can go to any team and make anyone better I don’t think quarterback should be making that much money like like like like they do and they’re going to and all that like we’re just talking or whatever but it’s just it’s insane to me yeah this isn’t to say that teams are doing it wrong this is just how it works it’s how you have to do it yeah yeah but the Players Association would never allow it but if the NFL tried to put some it wouldn’t shock me if the NFL at some point tried to put some either cap on what percentage of of a salary cap a quarterback can make which is basically kind of what the NBA does in terms of cap percentage or if they make an incentive based like the NBA does where this guy was all pro this guy went to a pro bowl this guy led the league in passing yards and you can you can Elevate numbers based on that um or if at some point they they decide hey quarterback is just too important of a position to our league to to let this go kind of the way that it’s going but teams are now um basically you’re not maximizing quarterbacks because your rosters are going to going have to be worse because of all the money you’re paying quarterbacks if at some point maybe they go like a quarterback is only no matter what they’re being paid is X percentage of the cap so on their second deal or third deal the quarterback is just 10% of whatever the cap is or 12% or pick a number 15 20 I don’t know is just that percentage of the cap no matter what and that’s the maximum they can make just go NBA Style I don’t know yeah I think that’s fair I have no idea but I know Tua is going to make 60 plus and Dak Prescott’s going to make 60 plus and Brock P’s going to make 60 plus and we’re going to look at this contract table in a few years and go hey why are all these guys making that much more money than Lamar Jackson that’s the thing like I I think pery and two are better than Trevor Lawrence Trevor Lawrence really yeah I think you think if I like py and I think two it’s better you think if the Jags and 49ers swapped quarterbacks and 49ers would get worse I don’t know if they get they’re the same tier I guess but I like party better man that’s wild I like py better that’s wild I’m not I TR La has to he’s got to sell a little bit more to me I don’t know so you’re giving him the Jason Tatum treatment sure sure I’ll fine yes fine yes I am is that what you wanted Kyle yes yes that’s all I wanted we’ve done it James come back now no um did Trevor Lawrence and Christian Kirk even like each other many are asking yeah I don’t know um yeah man I just I don’t understand how it reached a point where no running back is going to make more money than Christian mcaffry forget forget the running back importance thing Christian mcaffry is just the gold standard at the position right now I don’t understand where it got in the NFL that Patrick Mahomes just wasn’t the gold standard I don’t I don’t I don’t know whereb are just different the way the thinking and all that just different that’s dumb that’s so silly it is but it’s just the way it is so silly the way it is it doesn’t make any sense to me bro doesn’t make any sense anyways I need to get this takeoff are we talking summer finally yes nice Summer’s overrated that’s yes I I don’t know if it’s overrated because like it is get your get your take out thank you so many people oh we have callers whoops um before we get before we get before we get into this uh don you’re on the Insiders of Jesse and Kyle what’s up I just wanted to double back on the the um good idea or bad idea please reason why Conor McDavid won the km trophy he broke he broke the playoff record for assist that was held by Wayne Gretzky was and was unbelievable when you put only and he’s the sixth player to win the kin mik trophy while losing the Stanley Cup so it’s not unprecedented La last time it happened was uh when Anaheim went to the Stanley Cup with their goalie uh John Sebastian jagar when they lost butv it’s not unprecedented Ramsey real quick are you in or out on the summer I love summer oh no okay go ahead say your peace I love summer it’s it’s my favorite time of year bring the 100 degree heat which we just had and I need more oh man all right goodbye Ramsey later Ry all right Don you’re on the Insiders with Jesse and Kyle what’s up how you doing Mr mat how you doing Mr Tapia Javier from Ville not D but I love to bit every time so before the draft tomorrow I’m trying to see what you guys truly feel trying to get everybody’s Insight on these twoe transaction about the Kings to make please that they make herder Barnes and the 25th 2025 and 2027 second round pick for LaVine along with Patrick Williams and then you throw in Davon because they’re on rookie scale contracts to sign a trade and then you trade kozma the 13th the trade for kma with the 13th overall selection Sasha bazanov and dwarte it’s gonna take more than kozma if you get Fox LaVine Kean kozma sabonis with your bench being Keon Malik Patrick Williams Tre L Alex ly that’s a 50 plus one team and I don’t know how we think this oh we get kma I I don’t I don’t disagree I don’t disagree with you no hang on hang on I don’t disagree with you it’s just that none of like that’s that’s wild like none of those trades are going to happen why because those type of deals don’t go down dog those are those are those are two for one and three for three yeah how they don’t go down that’s just I’m trying to say how rasing would not go down it’s not like it’s 10 for 10 I’m talking about these are the guy the Kings have Darren Fox and Malik monk that can get their shot and only get their shot outside of those two who else can get their shot cons that they could depend on everyone so against Zack LaVine Zack lavine’s really on a two for 86 and then the third year is an option like but he gets his own shot and let’s he forbid nak get hert gets her rather you have Malik on the bench Andor Keon like this not gonna happen like I don’t the rationale is just does not make sense to me why doesn’t it happen kman is a two for one with throwing in the draft pick and then Zack LaVine at him and Patrick Williams for herder Barnes who n meet LaVine Sal rather ain’t throwing Davon because he’s the younger guard we need the wing they want the guard I think it could work you’re a better man than I am I got to let let him cook a little we’re just cooking I just know that was I I started to write it down I can’t like you lose me when you start well it just that doesn’t happen no but anyways like if you want I don’t I don’t disagree like here Zack LaVine could help in this way and kis would help in this way a thousand per. yeah I don’t yeah on the surface sure 100% Damen Barling in the building for the handoff I think Summer’s overrated Summer’s overrated Summer’s dramatically overrated could you explain yes I was in the middle of it and then people called in oh well that’s good it’s R it’s always good to have people call in unless they have a 10-minute trade proposal like And subscribe please you what like And subscribe please James ham comad and show where you get your podcast well shoot um one is hot it is hot and I don’t rock with that okay I don’t love the heat understood like bam out of Bio I’m just out got you but I don’t I don’t I don’t like the Heat I don’t like that I have to run my AC a ton I don’t like that it’s no longer hoodie weather the thing I can’t deal with right now is that it’s n freaking p.m. and it’s still 81 degrees outside that’s insane don’t like it we live in California where spring is very reasonable it’s still warm you could get low 80s high 70s but it’s going to cool down at night you can still go outside and hang out and do things outside the sun’s still shining our fall is is pretty weak as as Falls go like it’s still reasonable temperature outside but it gets darker a little earlier you know the Vibes Vibes better in the fall I like fall uh and then winter is winter like winter is not not my my favorite thing it just means hoodie season which is fine I just don’t like people are like can’t wait for the summer like yeah for what I think you barwe a lot no you bar you guys need to handle the heat a little bit better than you guys do I think because like 90 is fine that feels great do you know do you know where I live I live super Inland it’s hot where I live yeah used to work at 957 88 in Sacramento 87 in Oakley okay you got to get worked up about it like really this is what the summer does to me I feel like the summer like like summer in high school is fire or whatever like like as you become an adult like I can’t go out during the week whatever I still I don’t think it’s overrated it’s just so here’s like a couple of things I think the idea of summer is like fantastic people go to the water you know people who like getting on boats or going to the lakes or the rivers or different that that that that type of different stuff outdoor parties like love that shout out Hof and HF day the other day that was a great turnout like that’s Vibes um I’m with you in the sense like I like it when it’s dark at 4 me too give me that yes give me that where I’m walking around in hoodies and sweats all day and uh I’m I’m I’m I like I like to layer I really don’t like wearing t-shirts like I don’t like wearing less clothing I’d rather wear like more clothing same um but yeah like Summer’s cool for me like Summer’s cool but it’s cool for like a little bit and then it’s like yeah okay like I’m good now it’s just inter terminable but there’s no real spring here like spring is normally like two or three weeks fall fall is like two or three weeks it’s just the other way it’s like oh man it’s it’s still it’s it’s October it’s like 90 80 degrees and then all of a sudden it’s 30 in the morning yeah and it’s raining like what the hell I feel like fall you’ve lived on the East Coast I have not yes I feel like fall or excuse me I feel like winter in California is is like normal fall uh no winter in California is equivalent to nothing except winter in California like the fall we’re the best baby not like us at all the the fall like in Connecticut DC is phenomenal like the like the world changes colors during the fall like it is a drastically different experience of all of the seasons the fall on the east coast is the biggest difference like people talk about the snow in the winter and obviously that is like an extreme yeah like changes compared to California but when you’re when you’re like in Connecticut or DC or one of those places in the fall like it feels like the entire world around you is changing the the the the the colors the blossom like everything changes uh and it’s out there to me it is by far the best season it’s better than spring it’s way better than summer cuz summer could be anywhere from like heat like the humidity in both places especially DC just sucks yeah um but yeah the fall is the fall is special and then the winter the winter will cause you to move back to California I cannot fathom the idea of shoveling my driveway or whatever getting snow out way okay so there’s there’s there’s shoveling then there’s plowing where you if you if you like if your driveway is is Big you don’t want to shovel it like you need to get like some type of like snowplow snow your driveway is big enough must be nice and then okay and then the worst part is snowmobile no no the the shoveling and the salt so like we had we had the driveway and then it was like two steps that led to the doorway and that was it but they were concrete steps you shovel those that ain’t enough you have to put the salt down because if you don’t put the salt down it’s ice it’s over you ever Take a Tumble uh I’m sure I have yeah I’m sure like none like dramatic enough to I remember but I’m I’m I’m sure I’ve fallen in the snowb you’re such a cool guy that imagining You Falling Down is weird to me like just everything you do is cool and the idea of you being like Oh you walk out the door is strange no I’m I’m I’m I’m I’m positive I have I’m I’m I just again they weren’t they weren’t dramatic enough to where it was like oh my God it hurts so bad oh I remember but I’m certain you know in those in those I spent enough winners out there like eight or so seven or eight yeah I’m sure the other crazy things the last one was so bad it was like I’m I’m going back to California I’m done with this going back to Cali the strictly for the weather women in the week um the other the other tough part about winter on the east coast and I know this because I’ve experience just brief like week or two at a time is you have to wake up like early to start your car oh yeah your car’s outside yeah you have to go turn your car on like half an hour early like just to get it so warm enough to get in East Coast being better than the W that’s only if it hasn’t snowed because if it snowed you have to clear your you have to clean your car off right you have to get all of the snow off of your windows in the car you have to be able to actually get to your door I hate in California when there’s that little layer of frost you’ve just got to throw the defroster on for a minute you got to let it sit and then it gets warm it up you can wi you I hate that oh sweet I hate that yeah that’s that you know that four minutes really just takes my whole day messed up it does dude God I much the inconveniences but people who like summer I get it the the parties and the outdoors and and I I fine but Ramsey just now called in and he was like I love the summer give me the triple digits I can’t wait for more you can’t tell me that you go get in your car when a triple digits and you’re like and you’re like yeah this is awesome yeah Ramsey but see the thing I love that it’s 140 in my car Ramsey probably doesn’t turn the air conditioner on he probably is just like I believe that’s a you know that’s a good point I’m here for this life like Ramsey is RAM have you ever had your AC fixed he’s wired differently than the rest of us that’s a good point and the only thing that keeps him grounded is Katrina Katrina’s like hey dog krina turn the air on 9985 is fine but anything over a 100 is tough yeah when I lived in Arizona the worst thing in Arizona was a it would be 115 for just like the month just August yeah it’s going to be 112 or higher and then the low is 98 you can’t even walk your dogs outside without having like little yeah uh socks on they have to have socks on it’s insane but the worst was when there’d be a monsoon and then it would be 115 the next day so you get the moisture in the air from the monsoon so you get humidity and it’s 115 oh that’s nice not the I’m out on anything California I think okay I think I could do Washington dington seems fire DC oh no Washington State I love DC though oh I love DC I don’t want to deal with that humidity yeah I could see you well Washington’s a lot like the Bay Area yeah lot of rain yeah see you doing that yeah for sure what do you guys got coming up um man we have some ideas for players that we need to talk about uh obviously it’s the day before the draft I there’s some things in that article from the athletic with with Ant-Man and and and and Sam that just kind of stuck in the back of my head that I want to talk a little bit more about so yeah there’s lots of King stuff this is going to be king stuff all week man so it’ll be it’ll be a good couple of days for sure can’t wait DLo and KC coming up next that’s Jesse toia I’m Kyle Madson where the Insiders will be back tomorrow with the producers actually yeah up until Friday I think tomorrow at 10 A.M uh until then drink water and be nice people letter gang appreciate you guys I’m going to uh uh there’s going to be a new insiders graphic up tomorrow that’s going to have the Matthews mattress logo on it okay for the request of e e e e e e [Music] K yeah yeah yeah we got him screaming we got screaming we a number one spot we a number one spot for some sports huh got the city going crazy when we work huh we top two but we ain’t two we in first huh and when you need the real we is who you search huh d KC D KC D KC D we a number [Music] one horn a little hot St yes sir what’s good baby welcome in here to pre-draft day Draft Day e I like Draft Day Eve whatever y’all want man we in here yes sir boy that microphone thing is noisy over there oh my God I don’t know why this happened we had it fixed everything was good and then it just went back to nor well just like nah I’m good don’t really feel like doing this um I’m Damen Barling the ultimate needle mover in God himself that’s Kyle Matson of the Insiders him right there and he’s carway yes sir acknowledge me well you know that just a little you know little Helter Skelter because we just got told what to do if somebody said they’re gonna beat somebody up well we yes we we were going over scenarios to what would happen if uh a coworker threatened to hit you with a hammer this is a shoot this is this is what we walked in from so uh we have been we have been brief in situations for yes what what level of violence is this we we have been briefed on what to do if a disgruntled uh former domestic partner uh shows up at work uh how to handle that and things be happening too man it’s CRA that’s the crazy part like we we kind of laugh like all this stuff really be happening too have you had a former domestic partner you and Jazz have been together since you were like 11 it feels like it so no I’ve never had those situations but I’ve seen them I’ve seen them I’ve seen stories I’ve seen a couple of them firsthand people be getting crazy man people be getting crazy over love you know it wasn’t specific Spectre Spectre is asking was it like a hand hammer or like a Triple H Sledgehammer uh Alena didn’t wasn’t wasn’t specific um I’m gonna assume it was a Triple H so I think really what it was if we can if we can wave her down if she keeps walking no she’s going she’s going to a little little cubicle there is I think what It ultimately boiled down to is here’s how you react if Kimberly attacks you I that’s that is really what this was all about it was to prepare yourself like you said yeah for the inevitable when Kimberly SNS and throws a hammer at us yeah and I would I could see Kimberly coming in with a Triple H level Sledgehammer just she’s like absolutely done with the two of us she was telling we we were hey we’re professionals we’re going over the show like we’ve got work to do we’ve got two shows to to to to to produce here and I I was like Hey casy right here she she she hit us with first of all like we were we were we were shushing yeah yeah need to go I need to go ask Elena about if you’re being bullied by a coworker I’m just they said pizza’s supposed to be here and now I’m afraid to ask for a slice I would be too just trying to eat you know you know what we didn’t go over is what happens if a cooworker poisons you oh je so my belief is my belief is there’s a reason she’s been awfully nice with this food all these all these months all these probably going on years now get some oatmeal or she can do the old Martin where Martin thought Gina was trying to uh kill him for insurance money and she like hey KC can you go get that uh get the the cups out of the top of the uh cabinet and I open the cabinet and a big can of beans fall you know what I mean yeah could could be that she walks around like she’s in a Perpetual state of like frustration and you did and I already learned the hard way don’t talk to her during like event meeting days oh God no no I’m not here for your bleep Kenny no she’s not just ask I just asked how are you uh so if anybody needs help on to do if a coworker taxs them please uh give us a call 91699 1320 we know exactly how to handle it again I don’t know if forwarding your information to Jen or Elena will help but just know we got you we we know all the Jen and El by the way there are toes they’re much better than Toby but they are which one was Toby right you’ll get there one day Toby not on in season two no Toby’s in season two you watched the dundies right yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah Toby’s in season two I don’t know that he’s he’s not heavily featured yet he’s like Donald Sterling oh oh what you know Donald Sterling not really featured in CL oh no don’t equate anyone did you watch the new clipped episode I didn’t one thing I did find that you know it may I actually stopped watching TV after hockey watch I don’t think I I watched and then I like I stuck around for the Trophy presentation because it’s just it’s spectacular and then I was like all right there’s no W game there’s I’m I was watching little baseball watch The Little Giants little walk-off walk from the Giants there you go I don’t even think I knew they were on last night oh that’s right Ramsay was mentioning that that’s right that’s right beat the Cubs but um I was gonna say uh they just had a series with the Cubs like at at week ago yeah they’ll be done with the Cubs for the season unless they play each other in the playoffs oh that’s what I was gonna say about clip um one thing I found I’m not caught up I don’t know what’s going on but one thing I did find that I may it may you know kind of get me through the end of the series is they’re doing 30 for 30 Recaps of each episode and I don’t know if Momo’s on there or not but okay yeah that that I saw that they did it for episode five I was like okay this this may help me get through the end of this series I gotta see what’s going on after that I think that’s always a good look when show do the podcast recap uh I think that’s a good look did you see winning time hat one I did see it I never listen to it I didn’t I just wanted to enjoy that show for what it was like I didn’t maybe now I’ll go back and listen since since my our dreams are done that we’re not getting to season three if they went to Netflix it’ be winning time on the Lakers ends with uh the Celtics winning a championship Jesse got his wish and then the season ends what a year for Celtics fans man hey hey but the Lakers got JJ so well shout out to JJ got his introductory press conference I watched a little bit of the I watched a little bit of it not like Clips like I tried to watch it he um and one like salute like he could wind up being a fantastic coach like I have no idea but like JJ like in the in the in the non LeBron James podcast thing MH he’s a guy who I’d expect teams would look at like he’s he’s he’s one of those guys that you yeah I could see that that makes sense to me and again I don’t know him he just comes across as so arrogant when he talks he does and I don’t know if he is right or if it’s if he’s just like oblivious to it but when he talks he comes across like such a like he just comes across arrogant arrogant like you said yeah it’s like man I all right and I wonder if he’s going to come across to the players that way if he’s gonna come across that way in the locker room because that could be an issue I feel like I’m just assuming I feel like he wouldn’t because when you talk about the way I see JJ and when you talk about like his his uh Aura of arrogance MH it’s when he talk it feels like it’s when he talks to people he doesn’t think knows basketball on a NBA level right so if he’s talking to other NBA players his his his or is a little different that and there was something there was something that made me laugh as you say that uh remember the line about JJ and the this idea that Jake is become that JJ has become this like hot take he he’s a guy who just says stuff now to see if he can go viral or whatever it is and he do I broke down a video of Zion Williamson dribbling or whatever the line was and and nobody watched it and I thought that podcast he did with with with LeBron was pretty successful people seem to enjoy it maybe it’s you yeah well like because like like if we’re because the what was it called Mind of the game mind for the game something something like that if if if people are locked into to this podcast to watch two basketball players break down two basketball players to break down the game but you take one of those basketball players out and you have videos of just one guy breaking down the game and no one’s watching right maybe the problem isn’t what people want to consume right maybe the problem is you could be the case because you you took the exact concept did it with LeBron James and it worked yeah and so people do have an appetite for for X’s and O’s and and deeper dives into very specific basketball thing and and he’s also probably doing a little too much with that because the old man of the three was a successful podcast wasn’t it so he’s acting like oh that was just Fading Into bivian as Mike Mike Tyson would say and nobody was listening like no bro I don’t know man I might Fade Into Bolivian mean Bolivian broke his back yesterday spinal spinal yeah um go was the annivers of when he broke his back fin he didn’t actually break his back yesterday though if he did I’m sure his fight with Jake Paul would still be on well Jake Paul got a new uh new replacement I think for the July one I don’t know who the guy is he’s a UFC wait he’s not fighting Mike Tyson not in July I think they moved it to November oh so he’s just fighting someone else yeah oh yeah for July I didn’t know that yeah okay so I I don’t know who the guy is but to JJ’s Point like nobody listened when I broke down that sir they they did stop stop trying to make excuses for being a hot take artist in this situation we were listening people you were getting good uh numbers on that and settle down I got a quick question uh Jesse anybody anybody know what JJ stands for Justin Jefferson you know for real no I don’t know oh I was gonna say James oh say J Jefferson no you asked the question you didn’t know the no it’s fine James Jeff I think James for sure it well I got it it’s not James damn it there actually is no second Jay it’s Jonathan Jonathan Jr it’s boring Jonathan J Junior I I don’t even have that’s what the JJ is I have Jonathan Clay reick is that wrong he’s not a junior well then what is the second J for what are you do just gave it to him what is wrong with this guy this is the guy that Lakers hired he just giving yourself JJ why I we don’t know that he gave himself that you didn’t know his father’s name well no I don’t know his dad’s name just looking at Wikipedia was Jonathan Clay we should be able to Google why is his name JJ or like where did JJ come I’m looking to see if there’s any yeah there’s there’s no there’s no breakdown of you said his name is Jonathan he was born uh uh his his dad no he’s not a junior his dad’s name is Ken gosh they used to call me Jonathan jumper that’s why I call myself JJ all right bro Jonathan JJ out of nowhere Jonathan Clay reck give me a credential first Lakers game gold to one JJ why do you lie about your name uh his father played basketball I’m looking to see uh he then moved to Orlando with JJ I’m trying to okay wait a minute reck was named JJ as a toddler because his twin sisters repeated his original nickname of Jay so his nickname was Jay but his sisters were calling him JJ that’s okay look and it is okay I call my daughter BB his father’s be anywhere in her name background as a ston wear Potter led to his middle name clay so that’s how he became Jonathan Clay reck and JJ reck oh what’s the significance of your midnight M it’s just like a Playdoh oh that’s just now don’t do that don’t do that to JJ this was a don’t do that this was a solid day’s work I think we’ve done our job for the day we’ve gotten to the bottom of JJ we thank you for tuning in we may or may not come back with more steo and Casey on ESPN 1320 JJ my daughter’s name is Ryan carway and we call her BB so it’s it’s okay it’s okay there’s no be anywhere in her name you guys have been calling for pocket watch and JJ I feel like we did a JJ pocket we did we did yeah we did JJ pocket watch [Music] y’all having a good day everybody good everybody good we didn’t get a chance to talk before the show we were trying to get some things oh my God we were trying to get some things set up for the upcoming it’s going to be a weird couple weeks guys just a heads up bear with us bear with us yeah we just I think by the time we get to Summer League uh we’ll be we’ll be pretty normal uh yeah lazy man thanks to you and the in the chatty house the everybody um tied to to the PSA was very very happy [Music] sir shout out Ley and and and really shout out to chatty house cuz all of the comments uh helped the algorithm so everyone that made jokes about my white shoes at the beach that that do what you had to do that increased the number of views uh Joel Sky next Sky River show is uh opening week of the NFL season um Monday night 49ers Jets uh next live anything is tomorrow at Tom’s watch bar uh probably not Stephen we can invite her on the air I don’t know how she act like she don’t see us it looks like we’re Landing a PL how how she not seeing this how she see she she saw it she just acting like she didn’t hey guys hi I was telling someone are you guys well we’re not on the air okay so I was oh okay so I was yesterday I was with Stephen I love that you’re like slowly like pushing Kenny out of the frame that’s good that’s fine and um we were at his aunt and uncle’s house and they’re like what do you blah blah blah and his uncle Rob was like oh I love DLo and Casey oh shut up Rob yeah shout out Rob I think you’re the only one that doesn’t I feel like like your sister does like your mom does they got love for us they watch us on TV and everything I work with you guys it’s a lot different what well we should be closer actually I have to be nice we just had training well yeah so we went over so yeah we did we we we we felt like they were prepping us for if you attacked us with a hammer I would never do that you wouldn’t use a hammer because now I’d be premeditated oh that’s that’s a good call that’s good thinking right there than they were asking if you’re coming to the draft party tomorrow what no I’m not what going on why not yeah why wouldn’t you we supposed to support all the stations here yeah didn’t we just have a meeting about the did you see the pyramid about supporting and re the the stations what time is it where is it it’s at Tom’s watch bar downtown at 5 okay I’ll make it work don’t act like you’re still at work at 5 so definitely not you’re you can I work 8:30 to 5:30 p.m. thank you of course Monday through Friday yes you do yes you do sometimes we gota sometimes we got to kick Kim out the we do yeah Kim and Charlie put in overtime yeah Kim and Charlie are you allowed to do that no because I’m exempt so I don’t get over wow hear that oh excuse me do you all want pizza absolutely did we get yeah I got you can’t Kenny wants to know if we got sausage pepperoni all right okay bye no it’s no it’s too late we’re on the air now no it’s okay you did good it’s fine thank you you want to say to Sacramento surrounding like the entire city is listening right now I love the Bay Area get out goodbye get out so long Kim so long wow yeah to hey what did uh what kind of pizza did Kenny want again Kenny wants extra meat on whoa whoa hey hey that is not what was requested no I that’s what I heard that’s what I heard that’s what I heard thank you thank oh thank you Kimberly thank you Kimberly I only take non-alcoholic you know what I mean I don’t know you got there a bar right there in that room you got a specialy hey y’all clean up the room why were you in there because I had to make take a phone call what is that off limits yes it is since when it’s literally like a nursery or something not a nursery what is it oh it’s a lactation room I’m sorry I had to take a phone call but great job did you clean it up hey no we we’re on the radio now okay chill chill chill chill chill chill chill you don’t really ever have to wonder if Kim listens to the show like she leans into the [ __ ] she knows what time it is so there you go we got Kimberly coming out to the draft part here we go um there there was a couple of things yesterday that um really stuck out in that athletic article obviously we were reading bits and pieces of it on the air but as kind of the show you know wrapped up we got into the ksfm part of the show you know we kind of hit that first commercial break and I like I really read the article and there was a couple of things in there that would just man they were really sticking out to me uh one and this is the most important because we discuss this all of the time mon McNair is and has been trying to improve this team yes like and he’s been trying to improve it in very like drastic ways not role players like he’s been trying to even swinging for def fenses going for yeah and and sometimes I wonder if like I the the the thing I always get hung up on the Danny a [Music] um uh Rob pinka that the the not last year but the the season prior the the um that was my Rob you’re waiting for the end of the longest question in the world but the that that deal the the Jazz Lakers deal with Jared Vanderbilt and all of these guys and you look at that deal and you go this doesn’t make any sense this feels like a deal that’s rooted in a relation relationship and there’s nothing like there’s nothing wrong with that but it also felt like like does m have these deep rooted relationships around the league as a you know a guy who was with Daryl M I don’t even know if Daryl Mor’s liked to be perfectly honest with you I don’t know if Daryl Mor is liked around yeah it might not be a good thing that you come from the Daryl and it’s like Monty it still feels like Monty is trying to and and this is this is just me talking we we just talking here like it still feel it feels like maybe manty is trying to like establish those relationships you know what I mean like he’s still he’s you know is is is even though he’s been in the league a long time he’s still sort of finding his footing yeah as the general manager and when you have guys like Tyrese halberton when you have guys like Keegan Murray without those deep rooted relationships those become the most valuable assets you have because everything every deal you make is solely looked at as what assets can I acquire from mon McNair rather than I have this relationship with mon McNair I can move off of these deals later I’m kind of in a transition Year let me help my brother out like it feels like that doesn’t exist with him feels like it happens with Brad feels like it happens with Danny a I feel like it happens not all over the league but I feel like it happens around the league and it just doesn’t quite happen with Monty McNair do you think do you think Monty McNair is still consider considered as the new guy so to speak maybe because I’m trying to think I he’s not new he’s not new anymore but he’s not like but when he so the two deals I’m sorry the two deals that really you know didn’t work out for him the kosma one initially he was def he was definitely the new guy at that point yeah and you could say c it’s always kind of to see get like how how how how um far along they got along with those talks um if the the sticking point was really what has been reported or maybe it was a little bit more than that I I’d like to know a little bit more of that but I I don’t know and then I look around and I wonder there other um new guy GMS that are having the same issues m will TR and Langan have the same issues in Detroit um I don’t know I I’m trying to think on on the top of my head of new type of GMS and in the Matthews mattress chatty house Bobby Hill says the Devon chinzo mess that wasn’t on manty like Monty actually got that deal done that was Milwaukee who messed that one up in the media right so it might depend on what dant chenzo mess Bob’s referring to well that’s right there is two there might have been two different yeah uh messes um depending on you know how closely you followed that story the original divon chenzo thing was absolutely not mon MC’s fault um and to that point though he got a deal done right I that’s kind of it’s one of the things we’re talking about it’s a piece of what we’re talking about does he have the relationships around the league to get deals done and there’s two off the top of my head which is the divon chinzo one and sabonis for Halbert um you could even make the argument he was on his way to making the kosma deal and then uh a higher power stepped in and said it was me Austin it was me all along Austin I don’t care what you’re saying uh GM this is the deal that we’re making yeah it’s um I want to can we can we can we can we stay with this SE yakum thing for a second M the athletic and I and I and I missed this in our live kind of reporting if you will um that there’s a line in there from Anthony Slater who was on with uh the the Insiders The Producers earlier that that there’s a like some lingering regret about not getting that deal done and I I think it’s multi-layered right I don’t think it’s as simple as cakam wasn’t going to resign here or wasn’t going to commit to resigning here I think there might be a little bit there might be a few more layers to it but let’s go with just that idea and I’ll pose it as a question to you where the kings were at that time of the Season which was you know really where they were until the final 10 games of the Season or so four five six se they were in that vicinity right when this when this deal was out there should the Kings have pull if if the opportunity had presented itself and it really just boiled down to cakam not committing to stay in here in Sacramento should the Kings have pulled the trigger on that deal to get seak here for the final few months of the season and see what happens so for me it depends on one thing is Keegan Murray included in the deal ‘s no I don’t know this but there’s to me there’s no chance that he was and and look that’s the that’s the distinction between my answer right if Keegan Murray was asked for in the deal absolutely not you you don’t make that deal for Pascal seak if he was not a part of the deal if none of your what we believe right now as being your core four we involved in that deal with monk Fox sabonis and Keegan Murray then I would say yes so hypothetically it was Harrison it was herder and let let’s make it two picks you would have done that I would have done that with no commitment to him resigning because you’ve made the move you’ve made the move now Y and if he leaves he leaves MH and you’ve you herder’s gone m uh Harrison has gone and you’ve lost a multitude of picks now you’ve probably made the playoffs which eliminates any uh you know Hawks this this pick this draft so like you don’t have that pick yeah you don’t have the picks that you’ve so now you’re you’re you’re without draft picks and your truly remaining tradable asset now is Keegan Murray very true but the way I would look at it is is you do have cap space to be be able to absorb a contract so I’m not saying this guy specifically but Zack LaVine right like you the the Bulls kind of want to give him away and right now the Kings aren’t in a position to just absorb cont contract they’ve got to trade some people if you don’t have Harrison or herder and you lose yakum you could absorb that type of contract and once again I’m not saying Zack LaVine specifically but that scenario Jeremy Grant what happened a couple years ago with him getting to Portland uh because they just absorbed the contract you have that opportunity but to your original Point your options are limited because now you’ve made that big trade that you know was supposed to be the one to get you over the hump and and have you there for the Long Haul then you’ve got almost nothing to show for it maybe a playoff appearance but as far as moving forward you don’t you don’t have anything to show for it so it’s a it is a gamble for sure absolutely I would have I would have done it though if it didn’t include those four guys I would have done it would would you have done it I don’t think I would have you think with seaka and the Kings could have pulled off the same success as the Pacers this year maybe they don’t get to the Western Conference Finals exactly but like their team yeah they’re competing like this is a solid Squad right here I think so consider the way they’re playing and all like the kings were already a solid Squad well think like maybe I mean like playoff make playoff you win a series oh sure I could have SE well is Malik hurt or not that’s that’s the true I mean I I mean hurter is gone so it you know with all due respect his injury doesn’t factor into the equation the question is does Malik get hurt I I believe they could have won a series with what they had people saying healthy and that’s the difference like I they make the playoffs in my opinion um and then obviously with seak here you can sustain a Malik monk injury um I don’t know if I would you have done it I don’t know if I would have I need to know the reason why he didn’t want to sign an extension at first because if it was something where like I think I think I saw something at one point was like yeah he didn’t like the way they were talking like we can convince you like to stay after that it has to be to me it has to be more than just the contract extension like it like was actual money discussed you know what I mean like because with Indiana it was easy when that deal was done it was like Indiana has the space to sign him to a Max contract I don’t know if the Kings had the ability to sign him to a Max contract or not but was like he would have just walked away from a Max contract to go to go play where well look and we always say and I I don’t know if it’s exactly the same thing but we just got done saying yesterday if it’s the team that you’re with that can give you that extra 40 million in a year you sign the contract and if you want out you do it later and I don’t I don’t know if I don’t know bird rights and if I would assume the Kings would be if seaka would have been traded here they would have been able to give him the most in a contract offer so to your point that you just mentioned he’s gonna just walk away from an extra $40 million or something like that because he don’t want to be in Sacramento we we just got done saying that usually doesn’t happen well and then and then that’s the other thing what were you going to do you were you going to go to Indiana right right like what where were you going right San Antonio Indiana was where you’re gonna go regardless in in free agency or no you got there they had the contract and you said all right yeah and so that’s that’s the that’s the part I get hung up on because it just can’t be as because if if if I’m money and it’s really like well he’s not going if the if the if the discussion is there’s no chance he’s reigning here to me I don’t do it because you’re it feel that feels combative to me yeah no no chance no no chance is different you can you can it’s almost like what Rich Paul did with the with with with Anthony Davis it’s like we’re not demanding he gets traded to the Lakers anyone who wants to trade for Anthony Davis can trade for him we’re just telling you not resigning with you that feels combative to me and that’s starting a relationship off on the wrong foot yeah it’s like you know what I don’t need that here right we don’t need that in this locker room we don’t need that with what we’re trying to do salute the discussions Ended as quickly as they seemingly started but if the conversation is we’re not committing to resigning here all right that’s okay with me all all I can I can I can take that I can take we’re not committing to resigning here no problem you have you have earned the right to discuss your basketball future with other teams we want to be a part of it we’ll have the ability to offer you a certain amount of years and a certain amount of money and we are looking forward to that opportunity that I’ll take that I might have made the move for he’s not resigning here all right man we don’t we don’t need that in whatever’s whatever your issue is with Sacramento or the people in this team we don’t need it those are but those are very different things to absolutely I feel you on that and to be honest with you we look at a situation where the Kings may be faced with the same thing but what what if Brandon Ingram is like regardless of what happens I want to test free agents and would you do that move without giving up one of the four would you would you Brandon Ingram no no security like not even like a a hint they’re not telling you his Representatives aren’t saying we won’t sign with you but they’re also not telling you where they’re laning and it’s like we’ll just see what happens at this point at this point I think I would and here’s why I would ask I would explore the Kyle kosma conversation first and find out where that’s at if you don’t feel like you’re getting anywhere with Kyle kma then you weigh Zack LaVine versus Brandon Ingram and how you feel about that do you take the risk of Zack LaVine his shortcomings and potentially his injuries versus Brandon Ingram his injuries and more perhaps more importantly leaving I think the idea has always been quote Brandon Ingram fits this team better and that’s tough to deny given you know when you read all of these different draft things what the Sacramento Kings are looking for it’s like oh yeah that’s Brandon Ingram you’re just looking for it in the draft that’s that’s Brandon Ingram at at at this point for Monty and everyone involved yeah I do it you do it uh Jesse Jesse’s eating no he’s fine Jesse said the hell with you guys I just did a two-hour show now I gotta produce you two idiots what more do you want from me what more do you want bringing Brandon Ingram here without like a deal no I’d be more open to doing it for SE yakum than I would Brandon ingro really yeah I think I like seak better than Ingram okay if seak was like like allight now but seum was like I’m definitely like you guys said if he said I’m definitely not signing here don’t trade for me then yeah you don’t do it but if it was just a matter of giving the guy some convincing I would have did it can we this has been in the I I didn’t realize this has been in the chat a lot Scout recycler is OG uh declining his option because of tip’s coaching style guys I think it’s a formality I think he was always declining that op he can so much more money he knows there’s money out there for him like I don’t I I don’t think he’s leaving New York but like this was a this was a formality like this he he he has money out there waiting for him he was always going to decline this option yeah I don’t I don’t think it’s a things went drastically wrong and now he wants out of there no think it’s but you heard Trista last week and she’ll be with us at two o’clock like don’t don’t get the Sharpie out for OG back in New York I’d get a pen and risk using white out but I still shout out to White out Jesse you know white out is all right you’re you guys are getting a little disrespectful sometimes yes I know what white out is but I’m saying when was the last time any of us used white out I haven’t used well not since school I guess but yes I know what white out is we’re using white out in the second grade I don’t think that they were using white out like high school I don’t think you guys were not using wer you w I was there I was there I was purchasing it my mistakes I had before years no look look let’s check this out check this out were you using the little sticker thing white out or did you use the paint I used both I didn’t like no I swear I didn’t know I didn’t like using the sticker one cuz that was always weird the paint always worked better never like you guys are disrespectful I’m I’m grown okay I am grown I grown I’m a man I’m 40 all I pay taxes like the rest of you guys he said you out here call me Joe oh man shout out shout out to uh making sure you had all your school supplies the first day I was I was always happy to get the new school supplies every year how you went through that first day of college they tell you yeah we don’t got a stapler for you that’s a that’s a what do you call Shell shock or whatever culture shock yeah yeah I don’t remember ever like I don’t I don’t think my mom ever did that like back to school shopping we got to go get your pens and your pencils it was like just go to school tell me what you need we’ll figure it out later I remember doing it before my first day in college I remember going to the bookstore for the first time in college man bookstore H different H different different I’m sorry this black history book is how much I don’t know if I’m I’m just can I borrow somebody else is there a podcast for this a that’s the thing shout out to those of us later that found out work arounds or whatever I start buying books like the last three years this seent salute I don’t think they had podcast in 98 we just had to gut it out I was like man I had plans for this then had the nerve to sell it back for like $25 like ma’am I paid $90 for this book where GameStop got their ways what a racket dude oh my God that reminds me you guys off here just say GameStop I want to talk to I got I got an idea off the a you don’t have to be on here like during the stream or uh no GameStop oh it’s like it’s double Secret yeah all right well I guess the chatty house man chatty house brought to you by Matthews mattress not good enough to know Kenny’s GameStop idea Kenny’s going to tell us later after to show you I just bought a GameStop fellas right right right you know they’re out there uh you could buy a Big Five Sporting Goods you could buy a big I how much let’s throw in on that I’ll find out they always advertise it at the store one on a big five what yeah no I don’t why the hell would I want to own this there’s a it’s you always see that a big five and then there’s a um there’s I think it’s a more of a food company that was like you want in on the franch oh Subway Subway they always uh trying to like get you to buy a Subway start a Subway franchise no thank you no thank you I don’t know what I’d want to franchise but I know it wouldn’t be a Subway Subways could work when was the last time you been in the subway uh it it’s been a little while years no no no no it hasn’t been years it’s been months it’s been months really yeah been months actually do the cookies still hit they definitely I remember the cookies used to hit um Subway we we got a bunch of subways for Ryan’s birthday party that might have been the last time that was November how many did Ryan eat oh n okay absolutely n but it was for everybody else well she didn’t eat any of the food I know that’s that’s the funny thing about babies we bought this all for you and you’re really not going to eat it huh you spoiled little Brad but but now the move is kind of Jersey Mikes I go to Jersey mik I like Jersey M shout out toos I got the Pam there both of those decisions are questionable all right no no the chat will back me up you it’s like the number nine I toos it’s crazy what a different life I lead than you two like I have have not been in any of those EST mik seems like I don’t even think I’ve ever been to Jersey I mean Subway and Jersey Mike seem like toos too but there’s no like what fast food have you ever heard me say I go get that but that’s always like I don’t look at that as fast food though they’re making a sandwich for you fast it’s a it’s a deli I just learned the name like a year ago Del what I don’t know you know you just said you learned it you talk about like what the Del actually stands for like delicate tessent or something yeah I just learned that was wild when I saw that for the first time too yeah no yeah Jazz told me about this she said yeah go get your delices or whatever okay settle down Jasmine I’m going to the deli relax a little bit calm down Jazz Jazzy 510 relax I said what the hell is that she said Deli I said oh I never knew she talked down to you that’s spectacular delicatess is a trash word this is this isas you you know you want from the delicate tessent I’m going to clown on you if you ask me that this is why seum wouldn’t resign here is because of this he heard about stuff like this and he was just like I’m not if he’s Pro delicate tessin then I don’t want him here but you would go to the deli sure that’s all they are get you a nice a good sandwich no I guess I just I don’t think I’ve ever like craved a sandwich before that be bomb we different though like you’re healthy and stuff like that like you probably got all past that stuff like a long time ago like now you’re just Jersey marks aren’t unhealthy but yeah but he probably eat better than that don’t think it’s if it was called if it was called uh uh like Pete’s sandwich he would go I think he do like the chain you don’t like the chain aspect oh he’s saying he’s saying you’re too big time for Subway no he don’t like the chain he don’t like the chain aspect of those places he said it he said if it was a Morton sandwich you’d buy it oh no don’t just talk to me about Morton that’s not what I said that’s what he said that’s Mr Morton yeah that’s what I’m saying I don’t know why he was saying that guy come on we’ll come back I work with a bunch of children we’ll come back um there’s a couple of more names uh we want to talk about as they pertain to the Sacramento Kings we’re not even at the draft yet we’re just talking players already and and I agree and there’s something I still want to stay with that mon article real quick or the king’s article okay because there was something on there that I was like oh oh yeah no no no no no okay we’ll talk about that CE and Casey here on Sacramento sports leader ESPN 1320 I gotta go fill this I didn’t want to get yelled at filling it up yeah they were looking at me crazy when I got my cranberry juice I’m like bro yeah what Kimberly asked did you get your meat come on man hey hey hey hey man you boy gonna be happy Char I just go crazy I do need a napk though damn Subways trash don’t do that don’t do that Subway like the Pizza Hut of oh my God like like all pizza’s pretty good but like Pizza Hut is like the least I guess like that’s Subway to sandwiches Pizza Hut used to be bomb used to be bomb like my grandma used to love Pizza Hut like that’s what she would order and like I was like all right Grandma like that’s my grandma like whatever I used to hate it if that’s what you want grandma that’s fine Pizza had in early 90s see that that that’s that’s the thing too everyone talks about pizza back then like it was like this out of this world I don’t know what happened Pizza Hut was hidden in the early 90s I don’t know what happened either y man why y’all doing this Subway why y’all doing Subway a overrated clap clap clap clap clap overrated get on [Music] one myor moving hella slow I think got at the bottom of these pants too tight I’m about to all my little scissors is still it you just got to find the right one just there some that don’t work but if you find the right one you’re good yeah I don’t know if I’m going to buy food it’s probably not going to be a sandwich or like no like a delicatesen sandwich sandwich is lunchtime food too right there aren’t very many spots that I regularly frequent obviously Burger patch is amazing Burger Lounge is good yeah you walk by one uh at the go uh doco there’s one upstairs I’m rarely upstairs oh okay but I think I know what you’re talking about though is it by gim boys there’s a gim boys there it’s by the theater I think that’s by Gym Boys oh okay it’s funny yeah you walk past it every day there’s a gym boys there what really Jim boy is a Sacramento thing we taking it over Nevada but my sister talks about Jim boys like bro that is gross no don’t do that yeah it’s gross you think it’s gross never been no like just like I remember like because when when when when you know my sister and I before she left for school for college like that’s that would be her bag oh sure we’ll get that and it’s like I want this no french fries in here hey we’re GNA be at uh Tom’s watch bar tomorrow five o’clock draft party baby the whole ESPN Kyle you coming out Kyle Matson you coming to the draft part tomorrow yeah go boy yeah we up we up absolutely yeah it’s going to be a good time Tom’s watch bar doco right next to the golden one Center perfect place to be when the Kings allegedly select a player at number 13 we’ll have a good time we’ll have a really good time re real quick I know we um often complain about the things that happen in this office or whatever but I I just really have to point this out you can attest that this because you just walked up they seem like they’re having the time of their life out there today MH like it is just you know they’re just having such a blast out there so this whole they’re do we’re doing this thing called field day and to dumb it down it is mandatory team building activities like next Wednesday it’s it’s greeny or whatever the hell ESPN airs because they are literally forcing us to go out and like do a potato sack race and they’re like yeah it’s a chance for you guys to get to know the people you normally don’t work with and it’s like you’re talking to just [Music] us like cuz they’re out there they’re having fun and drinking and eating laughing and J and it’s just we’re the only sorry asses in here doing their jobs feeli they’s gonna be sick very excited for that couple days after free agency yeah no it’s awesome yeah it’s right after free agency it’s also 105 degrees outside be out there for a while and I haven’t told anyone that if something happens regarding the Sacramento Kings we’re taking a break from the hacky sack tournament or whatever we’re doing to jump on the live stream the killer about that too is they talking about like be there at 9:15 what yeah it’s nine to two like we’re not even what how many potato sack races can we have let’s do a potato sack race okay we’ll throw the egg back and forth we’ll have lunch and we can go home are we playing softball are we playing in a softball game a company softball game she said tug a war just look I’m not tearing so it’s funny for Odyssey so it’s funny who’s doing the Michael Scott um skit we’re doing all of this Stacy we’re doing we’re doing all of this you’ll find out later we’re doing all of this like they the days after they announced this this hey here’s what to do with workplace violence you put us in a tug of warp who my team’s not losing and if a fight break out a fight break out I don’t know what to tell y’all me two days off the Kyle kma trade plan tug of war are you kidding me oh my God oh my God man I swear if news breaks while we’re out at this damn field day I’m gonna be furious and Michael Scott paper company is asking and it’s a fair question does the winner get the manager’s position and a Sebring that is that what so didn’t he have a Sebring so this is you’ll get there pal this is a good idea I actually think this is a great idea we stream field day oh that’s maybe but we don’t tell anybody we can stream the games yeah we can stream the games we just open up streamyard and we stream field day I’m gonna pull a Pam I’m G spray my ankle that day sorry boss gota go I don’t think that was Pam wasn’t that Phyllis Pam got out of physical activities by uh no she she she heard her ankle but she ended up being prar pregant no no right right but but but but Pam did the yeah okay philis actually uh she was the one who said ow I hurt my ankle and just walked off the the volleyball court yeah maybe maybe I do that though there you go all right hey man look F day with Odyssey playing softball it’s gonna be me and Joe me and Joe gonna be on the same team I don’t think softball is a part of field day should be we probably do kickball I literally think we’re throwing egg back and forth a relay raise holding eggs in a spoon yeah blindfolded and5 degree weather we should get Ley to come out and film oh that would be fire Ley okay yeah we’re gonna get Le they have been sleeping on life at Odyssey I we’ve been saying for like a year and a half this would be a hit show they want more money coming in sack Odyssey live life at Odyssey would be fire I don’t know what goes on in the Bay area but I know uh The Odyssey joint in Sacramento would be fired you imagine like going into the Odyssey confession room like yeah some solders said they were going to kill me with a hammer The Odyssey The Odyssey confession there’s Kimberly all Kenny kept asking for was more meat on his pizza be in the Jay-Z room how many times I to send the yoube numbers well the J isn’t the Jay-Z room complex’s office now the N is p who who’s got the Jay-Z picture it’s somewhere else it’s complex’s office it’s right behind maybe they did we threw the Kanye one away I know which one needs to be moved that little Drake one with the stupid heart in his hair like oh this needs to guy hat this this this picture needs to be on timeout we want winners around here hey hey Donnie we need we need a we need a we need a Kendrick Lamar one we do need a Kendrick Lamar that’s I just realiz so so Drake is ours Drake is the 1025 picture because I think Ariana Grande is the 107 picture well who’s Jay-Z that’s a different picture that was mine oh and the and then the prince one is in that room over here well well we do need a Kendrick one Don Donnie do need and lowkey that ACDC one over there is fire Donnie Donnie killed that one oh yeah that one is that ACDC one he did over there is hot that is sick what we 1320s well oh yeah well the Kings one I I think the Kings one’s So Dope he updated a little bit because and because people wanted it I think he sold oh leave Marvin and Buddy leave Marvin and Buddy alone it is funny like buddy at the Forefront it’s like well all right we got to get Malik monk in there maybe you get buddy out yeah we do need to update Keegan in there Keegan’s in there isn’t that Keegan yeah that’s that’s Keegan by Mitch Keegan’s there Rudy Gay in the building yeah we should show the people I don’t know if the people have ever seen they’ve seen this they’ve seen that yeah we could I mean we could we could go get it yeah they’ve seen it it was like a week long conversation on the show yeah there’s probably a few that we could we could we could tape like Malik’s face over buddy we got Pap Giannis in there I don’t think papayannis made the cut look at Marvin down there you might have to go get that picture no we got we can break this down we got to break this picture down there might be a few that we do have to get off here like there’s a couple of obvious ones I do like that Demarcus is kind of like at the like Demarcus Mitch they’re right at the Forefront Chris Weber uh Matt like Keegan Keegan’s got prominent placement Kenny gonna get screamed at when when Kimberly realizes that pictures gone that’s gonna be the funny part is when Kim comes back screaming about this so this is the picture so Donnie did pictures for all of the different stations here uh at Odyssey for those are watching we’ll break this down for the for the uh for the radio audience but they’re but they’re different collages and if you’ve never seen Donny’s like work Donny’s like MO is he’ll create and he did this for me uh on a couple of different pictures he’ll create a picture that’s right at the front but then there’ll be a collage behind it and this what he did with the with the Sacramento one went crazy year well the kns one is but that was at Spike Lee spot right [ __ ] Le loved it like everybody was going crazy look at Mar come on well there’s Marvin down there yeah I don’t mean no disrespect ran stay uh ran no come on bump him R oh man like come on like let’s be real like and and here’s the tough part like dear and domas should probably have a little more a little more space than they do yeah yeah so dear and Dom Reggie theas I mean Rudy Rudy Gay could be down here somewhere yeah Rudy Rudy like like Reggie’s just kind of like he’s just kind of like oh let me get Reggie Theus in here real we need Vince Carter in there yes absolutely don’t do that look AB I’m just saying he wasn’t here for that long no that’s fine it doesn’t matter he was here I’m trying to see something where’s where’s Fox down at the bottom the very bottom below by buddy well hey come on that’s what I said wait do that again what what would you do there’s dearen Harrison de what you saying Harrison’s a little too big compared to dearon Fox oh I told you I told you Kim was going to be pissed when she saw that that picture was gone she’s upset we’re breaking things down here I told I told I I was like oh Kimberly’s going to be furious when she sees that picture is gone hey this could be monk monk can take the Buddy spot yeah yeah yeah yeah monk can take the Buddy spot good stuff I I also vote we change Doug’s picture to the one of him well to Doug’s most famous picture also the Doug with hair picture look how RI Doug is in that picture the the I think I think we also we also need bald Doug not I’m with that not not hair dug yeah Rudy’s Rudy’s pictures Areo H to be honest with you a lot of people don’t like it vlah should probably be there vlat V come on people stop doing this vlat deserves all the love in the world vlat the back but as long as vat’s got a jersey on it’s fine it’s only bad if he’s got a suit on maybe we do half Jersey half suit for v no no we don’t need the suit at all Jersey in all honesty maybe slamson should be bigger this should this is a 40 by 40 it should probably be an 80 by 80 we’ve been just need more space who do we put on the anti- Kings one absolutely the anti- Kings one we could put buddy Marvin in there I guess Luke oh it’s just probably a giant picture Jason Terry a good call by Kyle Masson the giant Marvin baggley collage well extra white choc got a name that we could put on there but I’ll just that’s just for the stream throw 75k next to that one yeah put that one up there I go put it back yeah go boy you go hey be careful CA i’ go go do it now because she’s not at her desk so you won’t get cut cussed out if you hurry yeah if you hurry she won’t see you um but that picture if you head over to the dop ones.com I he has a version of that I think he has an updated version uh because Kings fans were were were really into that picture when we were first showing it out I think you could go to the dop ones.com and for those who are listening on the radio you could you could see it but you can see an updated version oh he’s putting it on wrong he is GNA get in so much trouble he’s putting it like I don’t think he’s got it in the right spot and that’s the no bro that’s what are you doing Kenny I I don’t think he oh he’s gonna get in trouble I don’t think you put that in the right spot is it correct yeah I don’t think put that in the right spot she is going to cuss your ass out boy this V oh she’s coming back she coming back she’s looking man it’s over for you bro she made a face it’s a goddamn shame what happened to Kenny carway you just might want to yeah yeah CA she’s gonna look up I just don’t think you put it back in the right spot don’t look at me like that just just just look over here what when I was a kid I used to PR I was pretend I was asleep when we used to get in trouble by our parents do that do that just pretend you’re asleep she won’t notice she Hammer I think it’s I think you put it in the wrong spot but I can’t tell it looks like there’s I I don’t know maybe was falling the other way so I just I just put it up there and got out of yeah that was a good idea that’s a good idea Kim can’t stay out there forever she can’t she can’t you said there was something else in that article from the athletic that you wanted to yeah man um bring up so it just I I don’t know when I read it again it just kind of hit me like a ton of bricks probably throwing at you by cam at this point and it just stuck out like they said Anthony Slater and them reported the Kings offered the 13th pick for Caruso I don’t like that I’m kind of glad like if that was what was offered I’m kind of glad the Bulls said no I wouldn’t want to give up the 13th pick for for Alex Caruso and I like Caruso I think he would be a great addition but the 13th pick is going to be part of a trade package that gets you somebody uh gets you a bigger better player than we were talking about on the producers ear or the Insiders earlier like if like would you guys have been okay if like Caruso was the move because after that like your assets like unless the Washington wants Burns and or Barnes and herder or something like that like you’re really working with less now you you are but if it’s if it’s for the pick and that like that’s it am I fine with it no but I also don’t so this is the this is the tough part I I think he’s trying whether it’s kosma or they’re trying it’s not just money it’s Wes it’s the it’s the whole it’s the organization is trying right if if if if they can’t land kozma you got to do something I wouldn’t have like celebrated it but like all right that’s a that’s a good addition we’ve talked about you know run it back part two how it’s not super far-fetched right you know we can we can build these ideas of of of Trades and free agent signing we could we could do that to death in reality like that’s that’s might not happen right if that was if that wound up being the move that they made like I wouldn’t be celebrating but I absolutely wouldn’t hate it I don’t feel the way that you do I I wouldn’t I yeah I wouldn’t want to give up just that pick for just that player I would have I would have isn’t because that well that that’s probably in who’s in the last year the deal who is isn’t yeah kma yeah Alex Caruso isn’t kuso in the last because that was what was initially reported is OKC plans to him to an extension yeah 80 million right for 80 which isn’t a it’s a good deal it’s fine for for the caliber player he is he’s a two-time all defensive player yeah it’s a little problematic though here what’s that that deal that’s more than Malik makes yeah and like I I I understand like the Dynamics of how all of this works that’s tough and and here’s here’s the other now he is a a Top Flight Defender so I would say with him it could work but everybody worried about being too small and all this other stuff remember I’m always thinking about the closing lineup closing lineup you’re going Fox Caruso monk Keegan sabonis if he was he was your move yeah and people aren’t worried about that being you know too too small of a lineup or anything like that maybe not because kuso is such a Top Flight Defender maybe you know he’s like a um like a Marcus Smart like a Drew holiday where like even though they’re 63 or whatever they can guard guys from 6 seven to six feet you know what I mean they they got that type of range as a Defender maybe Caruso is that type of player but that’s a that’s that’s a that’s a kind of a small back court I hear you I hear you so I would I’m kind of like you I wouldn’t um I wouldn’t like be like oh get him out of here he doesn’t know what he’s doing I’d be able if it was the only move it’d be like okay that’s whatever but Stella I would want more though Stella posed an interesting thought here if they wanted to get Caruso for the 13th pick then they must know Caruso was the ceiling for this off season what do you think about that it’s a good observation it’s a good observation damn Stella they may they may look I mean that that’s that’s that’s for sure uh a Mike Brown type player Caruso oh my God absolutely that’s for sure M absolutely yeah t uh well TCG yeah yeah no that’s yeah that’s the way TCG says 13th pick for Caruso is a no-brainer yeah no-brainer is a no I would yeah I I I disagree with you but Stella’s remark is kind of standing out um but also at the same time is the 13th pick required to land Kyle kosma and I guess maybe that’s where my my mind is because if you if I believe it is so if it is you’re closing the door on on kosma by see I don’t think that it is and I don’t think that it’s required to Land Zack LaVine either because Zack LaVine is so expensive I don’t think it is for Zack LaVine I do think I disagree with you I do think it is for kman because if you know have the 13th pick what why would Washington want anything you have well does it have to be this year because you could have a protected first- round picker however you wanted to do it because if you’re Washington or if I’m Sacramento I pitch to Washington look you know that this draft isn’t really good you’re figuring out your direction and Jordan pool or is that your next thing you got to figure out so why don’t we put you in a position in a better draft to potentially take a better player well I see you cooking but that it wouldn’t be next year it wouldn’t be they couldn’t offer that one it would be my first thought is it would be 27 is the one that if you weren’t going to offer this year it could be cause you couldn’t trade you could trade the 26 pick you might not have a pick in 25 yeah or you just make a wink wink we’ll trade you we’ll draft for you in the 26 draft yeah could do that I mean that’s that’s off the Record yeah H the GM might not even be in yeah that’s the other thing yeah that’s the other thing but I mean if if you could though like if you if you could just go as far as 26 I think that’s a good point that you make I think that’s a a good uh uh a good proposal but I don’t know if Washington would do 27 as a starting point maybe that means you add another first pick first round pick on it though maybe right now it’s just the 13th pick or get kosma but if you don’t want to give up 13 this year you give 27 maybe 27 maybe just 27 I was gonna say 27 and 29 but I just don’t think you give up multiple first round picks for kman yeah so I I that’s that’s I guess that’s where the the premise of um me not wanting to give up the 13th pick for you want it for something else yeah because I feel like that will close the the book on getting kuse only or something like that I think the only person we’ve talked about who it closes it would completely close the door on and you would be really difficult for you to change my mind as Brandon Ingram however it’s worth pointing out unless I missed it please tell me if I’m wrong I don’t think of all of the names that we’ve talked about I don’t think Brandon Ingram’s name was mentioned in the athletic article yesterday I didn’t see LaVine was kzo was we we know there’s validity to that Brandon INR is just someone we’ve talked about because of the situation Brandon mingram is in Mark Stein’s reporting he’s out of there Mark Stein doubled down on the New Orleans is in a you know they’re in a they’re in a different position their general manager was like well this isn’t working and so it’s like okay what’s this look like so we Kings fans we started putting this idea together but it wasn’t mentioned yesterday so maybe it’s not maybe the maybe the the SE yakum situation was enough of a headache to where like don’t really want to do that again and we we have enough Intel to lead us to believe we’re not getting anywhere with Brandon Ingram so they’re not going to put a ton of energy into that but who knows and correct me if I’m wrong but the kosma mentioned yesterday was more so of they’ve long sought Kyle kosma it wasn’t it didn’t say anything as if right now they’re actively trying to no it didn’t say actively it it it said long sought and um something along the lines of Interest remains and it’s kind of similar with Zack LaVine we know that the Kings have had interest in Zack LaVine or people within the King’s organization have had interest in Zack Laine dating back to at minimum the beginning of last season yeah um if it almost feels like Monty McNair he G he gonna get Kyle kma come hell high water I don’t know if it’s going to be now or two years from now but he has been hot on the on the tail of or hot on the trail of Kyle kosman since he got to Sacramento so you know what the weird part about that is wasn’t the same true with Dante de venzo yeah he got him and yeah then lost him yeah well he it didn’t it didn’t work out the way maybe he thought now Dante and and and Kyle kzo would be coming into the Sacramento Kings in completely different roles and situations um but I I I still I I I would love to know exactly what happened with Dante Devan chenzo me too um and it could just be as simple as dollars and cents yeah um 91699 1320 our brother Jeremy on the line Jeremy what’s going on man yo yo what’s going on fellas what’s going on man uh so here it is I uh I think we can get cou it’s a good thing um if we don’t have to give up too much other than that I feel like we kind of f figured out what our rotation and how to play our players by the end of last season I think this team has a lot of a lot of growth and I think they have a lot of chance to um do really well just as they are so if nothing happens I’m not going to be that upset but if we can get C I think that would be a great addition and check me out at the Wise Guys Comedy Club Las Vegas guys I’m going on the stage I got it uh you know anyway right on man all right let’s all right everyone Pile in we’re going to Las Vegas salute Jeremy good stuff manious absolutely anxious to hear how it goes um all right kyl kosma Zack LaVine Randon Ingram and Reminiscing 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shout out X we appreciate y’all twitch dozen strong in there or is does does dozen is that’s that’s like that’s like doing work I remember the days we get one or two on Twitch oh it was Bryce and Kiren I think Cole was on Twitch so lost one there sorry guys um twitch is a twitch is a difficult one to it’s a difficult one to expand the audience in but uh I know with YouTube If y’all hit the thumbs up man that goes a super long way so we appreciate it if you could do that I saw that you saw this um what what was the video about like what did they do that was good [ __ ] yeah I I saw I saw like the beginning but I didn’t watch it through or anything like so first of all thank God Chad Gable is okay he actually was two weeks was not yeah he was his brains were not blown out despite the uh depiction on the television um so they they had um Sister Abigail deliver like a VHS tape and it was funny because [ __ ] Michael Cole’s like we’re gonna play this in a VHS machine and find out what this is all about how the hell they have a vhj machine ready to go no sir that’s called a VCR VCR yeah and it’s a sit down with Uncle howdy talking to Bo Dallas about Bray Wyatt and it’s [ __ ] phenomenal it’s really it’s it’s comfortable because it’s real and they make it you know the the VHS Al element adds like a very high level of creepiness to it but it is a it it I think it’s like maybe five minutes long four five minutes long watch every second CLI I saw maybe it was a little extended clip because uh I saw Michael Cole and it was like seven and a half minutes or something yeah I was like okay I’m G bookmark that didn’t get a chance to watch it how do book that group do you just have them like terrorized and I’m not sure you can’t put them in matches I don’t they just become normal I don’t know how you do that but I think I think that’s part of what they’re doing with this video is it was there was a it’ll be I’m really fascinated to see if they work Bo Dallas and Uncle howdy like together kind of like Finn Balor and that demon character yeah like how that like actually works together be I’ll be really curious to see um but man it was it was it it was good again it was it was uncomfortable because like it was real like you could see Bose’s Bo was not acting when he was talking and that’s like the part that made it uncomfortable but it was it just made for incredible television that was kind of the um we talk about like how they ruined um the fiend and all this other stuff but the in Sacramento in Sacramento but the the reality is like I don’t know how long that would have been able to go on those characters have a shelf life right and it’s like the original mankind like at some point you’ve got to do something else right and well he became Dude Love so like I don’t I don’t know but like maybe they cut it off like a year too early by booking wrong and all this other stuff but it’s the fiend yeah well they they they they should have never gave him the title if you watch back from like when redacted was running things a few years ago to now it is night and day you know what the you know what I think the biggest difference is and I think we’re coming back so I’ll tell you in a second just bringing you right into the conversation here I think one of the most amazing changes in the WWE presentation is they hired a producer who worked for ESPN so he was he produced Sports television and they fired Kevin Dunn and Kevin Dunn you know was a was a redacted guy who basically they they had the same vision they’ve been around the same amount of time like Kevin Dunn had been around since at least like maybe 87 88 somewhere around there and so like his vision for the product was essentially the same as redacted and they brought this guy in and man it is such a glaring difference in just the way that it looks on television the way that WWE television looks is so different than what it looked like a year and a half ago and it’s like these production elements that they’ve added just the different camera angles that they’ve added the lighting that they’ve changed during introductions is really incredible they make matches like one of the things that I always loved about Jim Ross as a commentator is he made a he made a moment a moment like he made it feel special he made a whether it was a title match a title change uh a heel turn a baby face turn he made it feel special I think when you present something a certain way when you put a an opponent when you put a champion and a Challenger in the ring and you present those two in the ring like it’s a heavyweight fight in in boxing mhh it gives it a different feel we know what we’re watching right we know it’s a work we know it’s a TV show but make us feel like what we’re seeing is special and WWE has been able to create that they’ve been able to just with simple lighting changes camera angle changes they’ve made matches feel more special when did uh I know you mentioned that they replaced the guy but when did that happen maybe a year ago it was within the last year within the last year it was definitely might have even been earlier this year I think yeah because it was it was after WrestleMania last year so like the presentation of WrestleMania this year was glaringly different um but yeah I I find it I find it it’s great they’re doing a great job and and hell they’re they’re almost bringing Raw back with what they’re doing in the last like month like they’re bringing they’re doing their thing with raw well everyone I know a lot of people are talking about how Smackdown is just phenomenal and and raw’s kind of they’re just a little bit behind right now and Hunter said something I I don’t know if he was talking to B M M Pat McAfee or which would make sense given the Indianapolis deal that they just announced but they don’t do that to Indiana Boo Boo at least you’re not you [Music] all that reminds there was just a little side situation that I heard about but we’ll talk about after this H Hunter it was referencing the Netflix deal and he was talking about the value in being able to present their product to the entire world at the same time and we you know if you are a YouTube subscriber if you’re anything but like Direct TV and and maybe dish if they they still exist if you’re anything other than a satellite company you probably don’t see raw until eight o’clock raw hitting Netflix at 5:00 pm. is fire to me like give me that because I saw the uncle howdy thing I see the clips from raw before raw airs yeah so I rarely see raw in its entirety I’m far more likely to turn on Raw when we get home from our Monday shows and watch it live than I am like today and so I I love the idea of uh that it airs across the entire world at you know 5:00 P PM our time and you know what it is kind of interesting is I’m a little old school right where like you’ll I’m not gonna ever be like no don’t tell me any stay away from me I want to watch it when I get home but I’m more of okay I want to get if I am gonna watch it you know sometimes we watch it at the dinner table or something like that I want to see the 8 o’l raw like I want to stay away from it till 8 o’clock and that’s going away another thing that’s kind of going away that maybe only pertains to me and others is like on a Monday it’ll be really weird it’ll be like 10:30 I’m like getting Ryan down or something like that or the the night is wind down R going to bed at 10:30 damn long days when you got the little baseball player basketball player it’s crazy um we have dinner at nine o’ sometimes man y they’re different so uh I you know we getting her down and it’ll be 10:30 like oh raw’s on let me turn let me see the end of Raw real quick or something like and that’s that’s going away to a certain degree now obviously it’s all on demand I could watch it whatever but there’s I’m I’m still a uh I don’t know if prisoner is the right word to it but I’m I still love live TV you know what I mean and and turning on the TV maybe that’s why I haven’t completely cut the cord so I can turn on I know you can do it on YouTube TV too but just turn on TV see what’s on or see something in the middle of what’s going on or whatever so that’s going I still think it’s gonna be great though having it on Netflix and having that having that relationship and that Dynamic yeah it’s gonna suck suck when Netflix is $55 a month Jesus um damn you mentioned uh actually I mentioned there were a couple of names that we haven’t talked about as it pertains to the Sacramento Kings you are the ones who presented these names to me uh before the show so I don’t want to yeah scoop your heat as Bret Hart would say um so um the two names that start if you don’t mind just start with the one that you mentioned to me yesterday that’s the one I’m I was going to go and I think this is the happy medium between myself and most Kings fans most Kings fans want just a defensive Wing play defense hellacious on defense I don’t care if you can’t hit a five footer I don’t care if you can’t make a layup I don’t even think that that’s what Monty McNair wants I just think that’s what Mike wants I don’t care if you can’t dribble two times just give me a helious Defender how most Kings fans are and I’m like I don’t care about your defense can you hit the corner three can you score whatever the happy meeting I like Kenny’s game yeah I’m supposed to be back this Sunday it’s been a while supposed to be back don’t hurt yourself um I think the happy medium is a guy that there was a little talk about earlier in the season and then it just kind of went away and I don’t really know where it’s at right now okay and that’s herb Jones there was a moment in time during the season where herb Jones is available or those are the reports and people were inquiring I actually came because I was like trying to Google like what’s the latest on herb Jones couldn’t find really anything since February 8th like just no talks about it at all one way or the other but one of the articles I came across is Kings inquire about herb Jones like in January or something like that so if he’s still available if he was ever available that might be a guy that I would check in with with the Pelicans and see no can we revisit this what are you what are you looking for for a herb Jones I don’t know what his trade value is or anything else like that but one of the reasons why he was maybe a little Expendable was they got Trey Murphy um who’s who’s due for a nice little contract extension coming up and yeah one of they’re trying to get their books right I think in in one respect and they got some redundant pieces as well and I don’t know maybe they think herb is one of those guys so I would I would tap in if I was mty and see what’s going on with herb Jones because I think he is the happy medium like I said of a guy that’s a three and d-wing hellacious Defender very versatile on the defensive end but he is a guy that can put the ball in the basket enough to make you respect him and allow him to stay out there on the floor I don’t remember the herb Jones available conversation as much as you do um but I’m all for it I mean um especially you talk about like yeah there’s probably a little bit of of Griff kind of covering it his ass here like I’ve gotta no this is not working we we’ve got to be better he’s Al thinking I gotta clean up these books like I’ve got to get us on track here because they’ve put themselves in a position where making moves can be difficult for them um but they do have pieces that I think herb Jones would be I don’t I don’t think this is overuse of the like C like he’s a guy I think people would would absolutely like to have um he did start 76 games for the Pelicans last year yeah and I I don’t know at this point because I think a lot of that trade talk or people maybe thinking he was available had a little bit to do and this makes a lot of sense is if Brandon Ingram’s on that roster because now you’re looking at it where we got Zion Brandon Ingram Trey Murphy uh Nick Marshall Dyson Daniels like one or two of these guys gota go and if you look at herb Jones they probably look at him as not being as good as as Trey Murphy but you could get something for herb Jones so that might have been some of the talk as to why he might have been perceived as available around that time now with Ingram being out of the plans I don’t see if you just ask me like I said I was we think Ingram’s out of the plan we think he’s out ofan Mark Stein Mark Stein is Stein is AD he gone but um but I I uh if you ask me I don’t think they’re trading herb Jones but I can’t find any confirmation one way or another if he’s in their future plans or if he’s still on the trade market but with Ingram being gone I think it would be a little less likely uh that they would they would be looking to move on from her Jones but but the the the issue is and the situation is Trey Murphy is their guy at the three so if you’ve got Zion there you’ve got the forward position already taken care of the four and the five is going to be Trey Murphy Zion Williamson you guy in her you got a guy in herb Jones who’s making good money but nothing crazy like around 15 million a year for the next three years where maybe you could get something back maybe you can get the point guard you’re looking for in a deal now maybe you can get that with Brandon Ingram you should be able to get that with Brandon Ingram too but I don’t feel like they I don’t feel like they would keep Jones what type of point guard you think they’re looking for though terus Garland all right I hear you I mean if if I’m being real and I’m a I’m a Pelicans fan scorer a Creator yeah if I’m a Pelicans fan if I’m below and JC and I’m good show I’m down here down here in the in the NOA trying to figure out what we gonna do with this Brandon now is that Bel or is that JC well it definitely JC baby you know what we do we getting ready for LSU football LSU football right around the corner just that if my own curiosity what does v sound like well he sound a little bit more the same a little more little little more polished or anything else like that little speaks a little higher but you know it’s more the same it’s more the same JC more the same well look if we was trying to get rid of Brandon Ingram right before we get ready for this LSU tailgate we’ll talk about that real quick and we got to talk about what the Saints are doing in OTAs we’ll talk real quick about Brandon Ingram yeah I would be trying to make a move with the Cal that that move with the Cavs is the move move that’s the move if I’m if I’m a Pelicans fan move on from Brandon Ingram you get maybe a Jared Allen and Darius Garland oh so but in that sit so so walk in that situation you’re sending her and Ingram that way aren’t you sure oh sure if I could get get Jared Allen back I could do that I don’t like that cuz I feel like that actually makes the Pelicans better of course the Pelicans are the greatest team that existed when they play Sacramento so I don’t know what the hell I’m talking about but in terms of when they play the other teams in the league I think that makes them even better yeah that’s that’s if I’m so I say all that to say I love Ryan Clark suit sorry I keep looking up he bounc back he bounced back I mean yesterday wasn’t it wasn’t bad suit I just didn’t like I didn’t like the shirt a lot of pink it was a lot of pink it a phenomenal green suit that he’s wearing sorry iake I got Ryan Clark’s distracting me sorry I apologize that’s a double breasted joint too uh I think is one of you know how he wears them weird um like real like it’s double breasted but it but it pulls like way over it like I think the camera this has been a minute and a half well they’re going over film what are you yelling at the man for look at look at how animated Orlowski is right now least Orlowski put on a jacket I swear to God I fac he faced the camera see I think no the camera faced Orlowski I think that that shirt Orlowski is wearing is a short sleeve shirt I swear he wore that on get up without the jacket and it was short sleeve I think he CH Ryan Clark gets the uh that’s Ryan Clark gets the the Stewart Scott award like he is he’s the best Dress Man on television Kevin the Gandhi’s close Nate burlson is up there don’t don’t sneeze on my boy that’s on this show too that we never remember his name he dresses really nice the brother yeah yeah yeah I think he might sometime he might get he might get Ryan Ryan’s up there though Ry goes my vote goes with Ryan okay okay I’mma put I’mma put Nate second and I gotta put Kevin third Kevin’s my guy and then the guy who we just can’t remember he’s fourth he’s the top three for me who’s the worst dresser Orlowski oh he’s worse than Richard Jefferson well Richard Jefferson’s a goof he looks ridiculous like he does like it’s a gimmick with him now like I don’t when Orlowski wore what do he wear like a cardigan with the Detroit like no dude you look ter terrible like you’re on the draft this is your biggest day of the year why do you look like that looked awful on the first day he did not look goodw um sorry I I I severely distracted but the whole we’re gonna rename this show ADH the whole thing was uh I think you you get almost everything you need in a Brandon Ingram deal which would make it less likely that you move herbes but I only brought him up because they were you know there was talks in the middle of the season of he was available how true they were I don’t know but there were talks and on that contract I’d be I’d be surpris they may be looking at her like they’re like they Kevin hder like we we’re we’re using him as a part of a uh a deal that’s going to land us Garland and Jared Allen or or or you know something something bigger of course they have this ultimate you know prize chip with Brandon Ingram I think the interest we don’t know what do Brandon Ingram want that’s been really really quiet lately I assume it’s not to stay in New Orleans yeah especially after the last few months but does he have a preference on where he wants to play next year I have no I mean I yeah I have no idea yeah that’s a good question I I yeah I don’t know hopefully Sacramento that’s your one that’s where want to be I think her Jones will be great for for the Kings I think like if if the kings were able to get herb Jones and and I think it’s pie in the sky but if they were that would be something that could take them to another level that would be that would almost be like a a Doug chrisy like find and and and a a guy that balances everything out I’m with it yeah I’m with it what’s the other name you’re thinking of other name I’m thinking of that we you know I just was kind of thinking about some things this morning and I don’t think I’ll do this cuz I don’t really want to work with this team and I don’t want to potentially help them out but what about what about uh Andrew Wiggins and Andrew Wiggins has had a tough time in Golden State the last two years but one thing that I think about is you talk about having a tough time the last two years who wasn’t there the last two years that was there when he was doing work that’s Mike Brown and you you wonder if Andrew Wiggins was to come to Sacramento would he be more comfortable and would Mike Brown I I don’t know if Mike Brown how how much influence he had so I don’t want to give him all the credit but he was the defensive guy on that staff and Andrew Wiggins was a topf flight defensive player his defense might have won them the NBA Finals with what he was able to do in the playoffs and in that Series against Boston and if Mike Brown was the one to help unlock that maybe Wiggins needs to get back in a place where he’s with a familiar face or somebody that he’s comfortable with in Mike Brown and I would take a I’d take a chance on Andrew Wiggins it’s been an up and down it’s been a rocky last two years for sure and I don’t know if he can ever get back to that place he was in the 22 playoffs but but I take a chance on wiggin he makes a lot of money though makes a lot of money you have it in front of you I don’t I do Jesse do you oh well let’s let’s cook let’s cook run [Music] it Andrew Wiggins the former number one overall pick in the 2014 NBA draft out of Kansas been in the league 10 years three years left on his deal gentlemen how do we want to do this earnings to this last wait a minute wait a minute there is no gentleman how do we want to do this I’m the champ I’m in control I call a shot that’s what I just said I said you can call the shots cuz you won last game don’t agree with me that’s what I said we’re we’re don’t try and throw me off my game now I said let Kenny call the shots I’d also like to make it clear I’m actually the one in charge listen Jack Toney I’m running through Daman allowed me to allow you to allow whatever we’ll go with the uh we’ll go with the duration of the contract so with the three years remaining all right very good oh this is interesting all right so there’s three years left on his deal Andrew wiggin’s highest career earnings have already happened very unusual in this situation already happened in 2022 when the 27-year-old at the time earned 33.6 million Andrew Wiggins the former number one overall pick in the 2014 NBA Draft 10 years in the league three years left on his contract highest grossing year was 2022 when he earned 33.6 million Jesse Tapia Kenny carway won the last game he is up 20 to9 career earnings for Andrew Wiggins are what I will go $223 million $223 million for Andrew Wiggins boy cooking with that one he cooking with that I ain’t gonna lie to you he cooking with that one he said 220 what 223 Kenny carway insists on running commentary before giving us his guest the former number one overall pick in the 2014 NBA Draft 10 years of experience three years left on his contract his highest earning year was 2022 when he earned $ 33.6 million I’m gonna go 225 Bob he’s gonna go2 225 he’s playing a dirty game and it pays off in Victory were we off on far off on this one not at all in when his contract expired in 2026 now keep in mind Andrew Wiggins will earn $26.2 million next year $28.2 million the following year and $30.1 million in the final year of his deal for a grand total of 279 m841 256 that’s crazy I thought I thought Jesse had an excellent guess because I was thinking 230 I was going like 230 to like 200 279 goodness gracious you just give bags to anyone huh man that is a so so it’s it’s it’s it’s it’s interesting though normally in these situations his highest earning year the players’s highest earning year will be the last year of his current contract that is not the case when his contract expires his highest earning year will have been six years prior and that doesn’t happen very often when we do this game so you said he’s got three years remaining yes three years remaining what are the what are the years the the the mount 26.2 uhuh uh 28.2 and in 2026 Andrew Wiggins will be 31 years old and he will earn $3.1 million be 31 years old Andrew Wiggins like if he got in the right situation and you know get his stuff he can get another 100 plus million dollar deal I think that’s going to be tough right now for him we got a minute left his career turned out like good right like he was the first pick and all that but I think all things considered like you think he got the most out of it he’s got a ring he’s got money he was was a big was the second best player I think in that finals and even before that at one point he was a career 20 point per game score I think yeah so like they were expecting like Maple Jordan and all that stuff but yeah hear me out a little bit the best and maybe worst thing to happen to his career was Golden State because it it showed off what he could do on the biggest stage in the biggest situation and you know you can make the argument he won them an NBA championship but he was a hell of a scorer that you can be in Golden State but that’s Steph show and hell I think you know he overlapped with Jordan P who was the scorer at times you know what I mean um man that’s a hell of a question I don’t know his career is not a it’s far it’s far from a failure yeah no it’s yeah it’s just a matter of I’ll say this though that draft class gooder that draft class was supposed to be the one is that the Jabar Parker class yeah that was that was the one that was going to change the face of the league and all this blah blah all of that stuff and the and the one that a lot of people who ended up loving end up being right isn’t that JoJo’s draft too Jojo I think was two right was it was three yeah he’s had a good career and he’s he’s not even 30 he I don’t know yeah he’s I don’t know if there’s another gear or if he can like rebound and get everything but if he could get in the right situation get his mind right you know for the next two or three years he’s got another $125 million on that I wonder what the Warriors thoughts are on him I think they’re trying to move them we can talk about it we we can get that feels like one of those situations where it feels like it’s probably best for both to move on that’s a good call right there Trista cek joins us at the top of the hour here on Sacramento sports leader ESPN 1320 yeah Jabari I I feel bad for Jabari uh securing the HB trade I I don’t like that name um he he had just figured it out when he got injured it was just like oh here we go and then and then brother gets hurt man and that was tough I know we’re going to go for like 45 minutes youman second best player I know what step did that Ser don’t worry for oh hey don’t do that don’t do that at all don’t do that uh Manny no don’t do that man come on man and Kimberly never looks out for me that’s a fact also don’t I also don’t think this is real I don’t think there’s no way that’s real I think somebody was having a good time with the a Photoshop Ain’t No Way ain’t no way I don’t believe it well might be the most accurate AI description in history I walked in to do the handoff and these two were quiet and I just looked at both of them and I was like I bet Javier’s on the phone I gotta teach Kyle the fade oh the fade is funny like the fade the fade is the the is that’s the Jessy Tapia trademark right there alren this is a good question maybe I was looking for I was looking for him last night and I couldn’t we would know I couldn’t really find him I was like yo I’m trying to like not when they did a closeup but when they just doing the regular you know uh telecast of of the play going on I was like where where’s that guy MC David oh that’s the good call let’s get let’s get uh let’s get Ramsay in here then 916993 1920 what’s up Ramsey when just had to call in because I I went to the Willie Manny celebration last night nice man how was it it was it was simple but the Giants always put on always have a good production I mean they had well they I mean they had kro kite and uh Dave Fleming speak they played a lot of a lot of montages of Willie Mays pregame throughout the game and I mean his stat the statue out front covered in flowers and other items and they had a lot of a lot of photo they had a um like a holographic holographic rotating um pictures on the on the pillar right out front of AT&T Park after the game and a large uh 24 that lit up in Orange and if you if anybody saw the game everybody wore 24 last night yeah yeah I I remember uh appreciate you Ramsey Ramsey did you cry no no all right where you at Ramsey have you ever expressed emotion yeah oh definitely was asking where you at right now Ramsey what you passing man I’m I’m on 80 I’m on 80 West hey you gonna come hang out with us tomorrow uh if I can hear the pics yes I I gotta have my all right all right ramsy f can hear the pics R it feels like a dude who listens to the radio while he’s at the game he at Katrina I need I need them to confirm yeah he puts the heades on Katrina can you confirm that this is true I love Ramsey I hope I hope he can pull up on us tomorrow and I hope you can pull up us on us tomorrow Tom’s watch bar uh right across from the golden one Center in doco we are going to have a blast we will get there right after this show ends we’ll be there in time for the start of the draft at 5 o’ and of course we’ll be there when the Sacramento Kings select their pick at number 13 man so it’s going to be a a great evening Tom’s watch bar Tom’s watch bar has been so great to us over the last few months so come through uh hang out uh and maybe Ramsay will come and uh put his headphones on so he could hear the pics that’s a win for me by the way Ramsey does listen to the radio that’s a win for me please put on the standings no it’s not it’s not it’s a dub it’s not a dub actually I do have that man right I didn’t first of all hey first of all gon let him talk to you like that you’re over here treating me like I’m Sergeant Slaughter in your Triple H 21 to 19 is the score oh man Jack tunny was commissioner for a long ass time or he wasn’t the commissioner he was the president he called the shots and the the first and then and then I think Guerilla Monon was the president yeah and then we faded out the president like Rody Piper was like an interim president and then we faded all of that out and then commissioner Slaughter and then I think we got commissioner Shawn Michaels for a minute commissioner Foley was legendary but then they turned into general manager well remember when they had well well then we had was it general manager for the night oh yeah are you talking about like 2000s yeah yeah yeah yeah it was like every every week every week like a celebrity who started that no anybody know who started that who started the the general manager for a night the raw guest host if you give me a multiple choice I think I can get it I there’s no way I can give you a multiple choice is that obvious oh wait no it’s not that it’s obvious it’s that if I say it was Donald Trump I guess that count itz well he got his win back count it dumped it so when um this is so funny that he became President when they did a bit they did an angle where Donald bought raw he didn’t buy the WWE he bought raw because people can’t tell what’s real and not the WWE stock tanked so bad that had to put out a press release like this is part of the television show raw isn’t a thing you can buy it’s part of WWE this is part of Television so they had to correct that and then Donald would start naming well so one change I’m gonna make now that I own raw is we’re gonna have guest hosts who get to make the rules every night and now Snoop Dogg is booking matches that’s crazy that’s crazy remember when the story he called um everywhere he go he called WWE when Vince blew up in the limo yeah I think that on this Day’s coming up soon too is it oh was in the summer wasn’t it well that was last week it was last week oh that means that means we already that means we passed it because Vince blew up in the limo before God yeah that was last week in the limo I wonder if we were ever going to find out who blew him up or if it was just hor swaggle it’s always horn swaggle Vince what do you want to do what do you want the payoff to be uh horn swaggle every time God damn it back a hard swle wow I remember that whole who’s my son and they they they like they really like hinted that it was Hunter which was so funny because like he was married to Steph already oh that was that was good stuff and then then it wasn’t then it was what I feel is and this is actually probably something the reason why it’s never really Revisited I guess is one of the classics to me is when uh Triple H married Steph in Las Vegas yeah um the famous date rate episode of of WWE Raw it’s amazing and they run it back like it’s the funniest thing ever they drugged her passed out and married her as part of the angle like there you go put one right up there with our old blackace skit that we did come on bro if we didn’t have the Ruth ruthless aggression I like what would we have with wrestling I don’t know I I I don’t know thank you John Cena for saving wrestling she was knocked out yeah in the in the passenger seat at the wedding ho wedding hall yeah yeah incredible and I got greenlet by multiple people yeah the amount of people that had to sign up off on that for that to get the a not one person went you know we shouldn’t do this not one person and and like and how do how does that even get like brought like to to fra to tell the what you’re G to do you have to speak about it like how do you say like yeah he he roof feeder you know whose idea it was it’s the guy who’s running the company it was trib’s idea because like most of the stuff they were doing they they didn’t know how to get out of this the stuff with test they didn’t know how to get out of it and Hunter was the one who said well just I’ll marry her and that’ll be part of the angle I’ll marry her well how are you gonna marry her Hunter well I’ll have the fabulous Moola slipper ruy in her drink at the bachelorette party and we’ll get married in Las Vegas when you think about the way things were going like it probably didn’t like wasn’t like the craziest idea cuz I’m s like the pills they were popping back then and stuff like that like those probably off the top of like just normal to them yeah probably nothing wow wow Sean probably had a couple just drop it in or drink boy oh boy and they it it’s like I they don’t I’ll be fascinated to see if they continue to celebrate these moments that are just so cring worthy I think we’re getting to a point where they start they’ll start like moving away like I feel like all the flashbacks now like towards that mid-2000s era and like after now like John Cena remember when Rey Mysterio won the championship yes on an angle that was based off Eddie Guerrero dying wait was that also at the Wrestlemania 2004 where redacted won the main event no that was a different wrestl okay I was gonna say that can’t use that one either that was a that was a different one uh Trista crick’s gonna join us coming up in a couple of minutes and we’ll throw this question at her because uh obviously the Hawks are kind of at the Forefront of the news right now with the draft tomorrow you think Trey young is getting traded I I won’t be on the fence I’ll say no I think de jante gets traded I think Quinn Snyder wants that reverse though I think he’d rather keep jante trade Trey young but Trey young I don’t he’s not without flaws at all I do think he gets a little bit of a bad RP I think Trey young is one of the top scorers in this league um he he can can dominate might be a little strong but he can he can do a lot on the offensive end that can swing a game he terrible on defense horrible on defense and who knows how much of a leader he really is but he he’s one think he is one no but he he’s a GameChanger on offense does a trade benefit Deonte or Trey young more trading away I think Trey young he needs a change of scener now I feel like everything they’ve done in Atlanta just hasn’t worked they’ve gone through three different coaches they’ve gone through multiple rosters and all that I mean Trey young I felt like he was kind of not it’s like one of those read the te leavs type things towards the end of the season but like where benefits Trey San Antonio anonio would be great so structure not that Quinn Schneider doesn’t have structure like with that but like playing with wemi I think that’d be great with each other I can think you’d fit there on that team they need a point guard too you got the pics too as well he’s so deficient as a Defender though to make the trade make yeah you got the fourth and the eighth right yeah yeah they’re locked in on uh I forgot how to say dude’s name I forgot but the Spurs are locked in good the Spurs are locked in and some on someone guys there’s a player in the draft the Spurs have their eyes on we got news the Spurs are locked in on a player in the draft according to Kenny carway tweet it tweet it the the guy who potentially might go number one I forgot how to say his name too Alexander s the someone else I saw him t to the Spurs too that’s the French kid yeah that’s the guy I was talking about yesterday like 69ine Wing play or whatever the case may be U well you heard it here first Spurs are locked in on a player in the draft come on man this isn’t the biggest Radio Show in Northern California talking about zakari is zakari yeah I’m not even gon yeah I knew how to say his name too well I heard it this morning and it was one of those things where it’s like okay say it say it okay got it same I don’t have it I in fact do not have it re re sure I think Ramsey says re re that’s yeah that’s I trust Ramsey well well Ramsay’s transistor radio told him that thank you ramay Ramsay actually does turn the dial bro y’all should have heard your boy your Bo don’t touch that dial Folks sir what the hell are you talking about all right Kenny Rees sh that’s that’s a guy that allegedly the Spurs are locked in on like they okay they they really want him if he doesn’t go number one and there’s a whole thing where SAR is refusing to work out for Atlanta he wants to go to Washington um so he’s almost calling Atlanta’s Bluff like don’t draft me number one and a lot of people like Risha Risha Shay and I think he’s you know number one I was thinking back to something we said yesterday we were talking about um uh about this draft and how we both were of the mind like no I don’t know if there’s any super I don’t know if there’s any All Stars in this draft but there there’s some good ball players in this draft and I I always you know maybe maybe I’m you know too sensitive to it or whatever but I hate when people like this draft stinks or it’s not a good draft like yeah maybe you’re not finding a franchise guy but if you’re doing your homework if you know what you’re you’re looking at you can find guys that help you um in this draft become a winning basketball team and I think that’s just what this draft is littered with so you know I I like I said I understand why people say that like I don’t want to make it too big of a deal but it’s not a bad draft to me it’s just you gota you’re not GNA have a a franchise player in this draft yeah I mean I I I think too much has been made about oh this just isn’t a good draft like all right man it’s it’s it’s fine there’s no there’s no guy that we’ve been talking about for the last five years like Victor wanyama right but uh I don’t think that means I’m looking at the top 10 right now of guys that I’ve seen multiple times I’m thinking of like uh college guys basically I like all I like all these guys I like K Clingan I like uh Castle you know how I feel about dton connect Rob Dillingham That’s my boy too yeah you know what I mean Reed Shepard these guys like can play they they’re they’re good ball players maybe just not franchise this is um you’re listening to DLo and KC on kfm West Sacramento 98.5 FM KX qd2 Sacramento ESPN 1320 always live on the free Odyssey app we think Trista might be joining us I don’t know it’s Tuesday right it is Tuesday it’s trist Tuesday maybe trist touched that dial been sent maybe she’s still in Chicago she was at the Cubs she was in Chicago yeah went to Wrigley yeah um I I was I was going to make a point it was going to be a great one too it was going to be bet it was going to be it was going to be draft no it was going to be as good as the the Spurs are locked in on a player in the draft it was going to be of that quality type point it was gonna be like Emmy award-winning stuff that’s why we’re number one but my dumbass thought it would be a uh a a good time to read the legal ID so uh well was trist is not even here yeah you know what I think it is um looking at the at this draft one with the Kings at 13 like the process of evaluating this I think was so overwhelming for a lot of people because college basketball stinks right now it’s not fun to watch right like I didn’t I don’t like I’ve seen maybe a a handful of these guys in live action maybe no more than twice yeah college basketball had a had a had a rough season this past year and you combine that with the fact of like so college basketball wasn’t that great and half of the top five are not College athletes right like yeah yeah right you know so you you combine those two and it just people are just having a hard time getting a grasp on on this draft um and understandably so but I I think there’s some there’s some good players in there there’s some guys that can play basketball ladies and gentlemen she’s here it does not appear she is in Chicago I’m back she is she is dressed for DC more than Chicago um and she looks spectacular nice shirt what’s up TK what’s up guys I uh my laptop my Odyssey uh issued laptop just would not pull up my email no you could have ended at Odyssey issued laptop and we would have understood yeah so that’s why did you take the training about what to do if you’re attacked with a hammer by a coworker that’s not real no ma’am not only is it real it really happened to me well yeah you’ll be getting that training soon ma’am yes you you’ll yeah but yeah you could have ended at Odyssey issued laptop and we all would have understood yeah it’s been I barely got in here there was thunderstorms in Chicago all day so I like got in so you just got back now like an hour ago oh wowz wow how was Chicago we we were oh my good we did everything we did everything we went to the Cubs game now now now hold on hold on before you like who’s we I brought a crew with me she got a she’s got an Entourage she has she has a posi oh the Odyssey issue laptop froze down another yep it did I think I think you just kicked out of an official trist it has to be 5 Seconds you kicked out at like 4 and a half let’s see all right we gotta let’s why don’t we do this hold on let’s do this we can do let’s see let’s try this probably not gonna be as good it’s probably not gonna be as good it’s gonna be it’s gonna be great it’s gonna it’s gonna be great I know what’s happening Rush streak it’s lit it must have been hot there too I saw what Trista had on at the Cubs game it hum humidity hold on let’s make a switch there we go okay we back in here y’all y’all are tripping you know I mean it was hot that day though 97 that I just thought about something and forgive me if it was on your Twitter feed because I didn’t uh I was I wasn’t really on Twitter that much over the weekend I saw you at the Cubs game but did you go to the sky game too no I just you know I feel so bad asking for hookups so I only wanted to ask for one hookup oh you really got to hang out with Kenny more he’ll ask wait what all I want is some book ones all right I’m more of like I let the plug come to me you know what I mean like wow no pause no so um I’d never been to really feel before and so Mitch Rosen is the p of 670 The Score where I do shows on the weekends and you know I think I think they have like a suite or something so I I just was like hey I’ve got a couple of friends coming into town and we’ve never been to Wrigley do you think that maybe you could help me find some tickets and I was expecting you know like you know that those little word choices that you yeah yeah it’s very good know if there’s any tickets lying around yeah like I don’t know like what you suggest but I’m you know I’m new to town and um he was like tickets will be in your email like midweek it was seventh row behind home plate that was nice was nice so then we ran into so one of the the guys that came with was a producer for the show that I go on all the time um Bernstein and Holmes and so he’s like oh let’s walk around Wrigley and then we see Cliff Floyd who it was a Mets player baseball player yes yeah so he does some stuff for the Marquee he does pre and postgame for the Cubs and he was like introduced to us so we started talking and we’re like what’s up with you and he’s like oh well I got to go change because my guy uh Roy wood is in town and he’s he’s doing a show and I said really and he goes yeah and I go that’s my guy that’s your guy and I go yeah tell him I said hey and he’s like oh okay and my okay and I was like this dude’s here right now so I facetimed him and it was you know you know the like that moment where you just like you know there’s a moment where either you’re GNA look like you’re crazy and you just have that person’s number or you’re gonna look like that’s your guy Kenny Kenny makes me feel like the former a lot right like makes me trist I pick up all the time and when I don’t I call back immediately and I got to now do the record video that’s she does phone’s always on do not disturb anyway just pick up the phone anyway so I FaceTime Roy and he threw out the first pitch and I didn’t even know that oh snap he came over to us and it was you know it was great I hadn’t seen him forever and he’s like hey you guys trying to come to the show tonight and we’re like yeah he’s like let me put your name on the list we go to the show which I have a sidebar story about somebody who was trying to like play who is it uh big time us who works on the station by the way oh yeah I want to hear about this yeah yeah he literally like big time us anyway so we get to the show a little late like still opening act late but like late and we are front effing row at this freaking show it was so cool what happens when you hang out with Tristan man tell so then we uh we ended up going backstage and you know got to they my friends got to meet him again and they took pictures and all that stuff so that was like what was cff Floyd he was in the uh 44th row I don’t know where I don’t know where was I saw and he was like oh you did come you did come I was like I told you I know so what’s the what’s the sidebar story oh yeah so so me the producer of the show on the score and so I do Saturdays there every now and again and I also go on once a week with the show at from from 10 to 10 to two right so the and then my friends there and then Roy’s there and so this guy pulls up who does the show from 2 to 6 right after the 10 to two show right so he knows this producer that’s with me so he pulls up on Roy he’s like hey Roy I’m I’m Danny you know I I was just you we just interviewed you the other day blah blah blah uh from 670 The Score and he’s like kind of like you know kind of doing this to us you know like like this is our group that he just like got into and then like was like actually no this is like a one toone conversation and Roy was being like real cool and he was like you know Trista right like she’s on the station and he looks at me like oh oh okay and uh I was like Wow and then I go and uh Ry Ray like the producer on the scores right here too right there like Katie you see him and he looks at Ray and he’s just like oh okay like if you didn’t know that we were there you would think we do not work there like this guy definitely works there and like these dudes are interns at best wow Bo it sounds like he needs his ass beat so if you haven’t taken the HR training now it would be a great time to go beat that guy that’s so whack get his kid in his arms he’s like yeah I’m on dab Duty yeah I hate these stupid ass self-important people like bro shut up I was like dang dude he you work at a station no one knows who you are give it a rest come on yeah and like wild uh I saw his host like his partner that was there at Roy’s show and he comes right up to me he’s like hey like what’s up Trista big fan and I was like oh I would have thought you had no idea who I was and he goes why is that and I go because you’re your show partner just literally like acted like he had never heard my name never heard my voice never seen me me like I was just a a scrub and he was like oh yeah that yeah that’s Danny yeah Danny goodness Sak oh man well and and more of I got another question for trista’s trip to Chicago did you go see sweetie no didn’t see sweetie but I saw somebody else One More Story are you ready absolutely are you ready okay so we’re staying in Hyde Park which I highly recommend Southside of Chicago and we’re we’re like just down the street from like Muhammad Ali’s house Farah Khan’s spot the whole like little compound they got going on there and uh we’re walking with Emma and I’m like oh yeah I think I think Obama’s house like Obama has a house around the corner from here somewhere let’s put it into our GPS and see where it is I’m like well he doesn’t live here really anymore he lives in DC but at least we could see the house and like it’s probably barricaded because the last time I came to Chicago the streets were blocked off barricaded makes sense but we’ll just get as close as we can so we walk over there sure enough barricaded do not enter and I’m like well we’re walking it’s different than like on cars different than on foot so let’s let’s walk through and see what it’s not this story is gonna well the ending won’t be tragic because trist is here the thought process is crazy that’s whatever do not interrupt I we’ll just see we’ll just see how long it takes for them to tell us to turn around you know and it’s the most white privileged thing ever my friend that’s what my friend said my friend was like he was like a your white is coming out right now like and I was like fam I was like fam you look like a a university Professor you’re not getting shot either none of us are getting shot okay our melan level is like yellow at best okay like Damian’s five Shades Darker than all of us combined so I don’t care what you know he’s got his he’s got his red bone his summer red bone on I can see it so so Emma’s like playing in the grass and like she’s like rubbing her belly on the grass I’m like come on Emma let’s go let’s see this house CU like try to take a photo of it or something and I look up and I see cuz we’re Three Doors Down from Obama’s house at this point can’t believe we’ve gone so far cuz we he’s like all the way at the end of the block like two houses in and we’re coming from the other side so like but we’ve we’ve already gone like 75% of the way there no one said anything so I look up and there’s a group of like six people in formal attire leaving Obama’s house and I was like that’s weird you think that they run tours out of there cuz like I wouldn’t want to run a tour out of that house if I still live there like there’s that’s weird the people are leaving his house yeah and and I’m like that couldn’t no and so then all of a sudden they get into these cars and it’s four black SUVs boom boom boom boom and then it’s three presidential limos boom boom boom and then it’s one SUV off the back boom and they’re driving past us and then the Secret Service is like hey what you doing like do not move one more step like we weren’t we weren’t GNA go anywhere he goes let all these cars go past and then you need to cross the street I’m dude you’re so slacking you know like what have you been doing hey and he’s like you guys live on this block we’re like oh we’re one block over which We Were In fairness one block over and so uh my friend says to the guy he goes to the Secret Service he goes is Obama in Residence right now is that what we just saw and the and the Secret Service person just like Smiles it’s like yep and I was like Obama what are the odds like you get onto his block and he walks right out of the house with the family Trista lives a life man she do she lives a life it could ended that day in Hy Park thankfully it didn’t but no she lives a life once she got past uh the US Army or whatever and got past well all because Emma wanted to rub her belly on presidential grass well no I was say where was she at where she took the wrong turn going to Starbucks oh yeah yeah yeah once she got past that I mean I guess yeah she’s Teflon so that was freaking crazy Secret Service is nothing after that got into the Uber and we told our Uber driver and he goes you guys should buy a lottery ticket cuz I’ve never heard of that like not only does he never come to Chicago and live he doesn’t stay there anymore for you to be on the Block while Secret Service is there and they leave and somebody like waved at Emma out the window no that was a gun they were waving a gun ma’am moving move ma’am that crazy you do live you do live a book worthy life how does it happen I don’t know it doesn’t make any this is TK I’ve been in DC at the White House and President Obama wasn’t there all right and you hit the one time he’s he was just he just had to drop by and pick up some basketball shorts and left and you just happened to be there had to pick up his mail real quick whoa he got a package from stockx he had to pick up real quick they were all like super dressed up too like one I think the oldest daughter now that I’m like piecing it together had like a bright yellow like sort of like spring dress on everybody else was in like black suits black dress like six of them see Obama just like us that’s where he sends his shoes so Michelle don’t he don’t send them to the house let me send him to the house in Chicago you better be careful Jasmine listens to the show well I used to send my shoes to my grandmother’s house but she’s not here no more so I don’t I need a new connect up I need a new uh Stash House send him to Odyssey or send him to to I told Kim I was gonna do that she said you better not I just love the idea of a stockx package showing up with Barack Obama’s name on it brother look at that you think that’s the Barack Obama nah it can’t be drop these off um it feels ridiculous to shift the basketball now after that that was fun that was fun when you coming back here that’s what I was thinking too come on man are you going to Vegas are you going to Vegas no you guys never be on some legit stuff with that I’m gonna be in Baltimore in a couple weeks really yeah I mean I got a wedding to go to it’s like a whole all-star weekend but I don’t know might have some downtime all right let me know I don’t know when I’m coming to Sacramento I am gonna be in Vegas for part of Summer League I’ve got my 20th High School Reunion yeah so that’s like right in the last day of summer league and then I’ve got also my first boss and mentor’s 50th birthday party as well so I’m not GNA be able to stay for the whole thing but I don’t know I need a reason to come back you know like we got to get some games going I gotta figure out I can think of two of them well we know that Kenny Kenny’s already still in the dog house from the last time so no well no I’m back outside I’m back outside I’m working I’m working well yeah now that we have ksfm we disguise everything as work yeah we gotta go to tiger tonight for work said that’s how you uh that’s how we watch the money yeah that’s right we’re going to I’m not going to Tiger because I want to he watch the money but no man you gota pull up it’s funny you say that about Vegas though it feels like this summer league does not have a buzz no and it has to do with the draft class yeah because next year with Cooper flag and stuff and I isn’t Boozer son next year as well either next the following year but Ace Bailey is gonna be a really big name to watch as well um you’ve got Ron Harper son Dylan Harper Jr you’ve got uh who else is in that class you got some good players yeah um obviously Cooper flag I don’t know if I’m as high on Cooper flag as a lot of other people Co flag and go he’s he’s nasty it’s more mental than anything it’s more like upbringing really good family like very chill like not there’s just things about them that I’m I wonder what the Competitive Edge is g to be like so like I wonder about his toughness like mental toughness but we’re GNA see we’re gonna see he’ll get real Annoying once he gets on Duke’s campus they perect for with Annoying serum JJ flag is gonna be his oh my God is JJ do you is JJ arrogant or does he just come across as arrogant I think he is arrogant yes I think I do you ever got you guys have friends or know people who are ridiculously smart but they’re really annoying about it I mean I know people like that just random people yeah that I like that I that I’m cool with like some of the homies from way back when but ass I feel like that’s JJ he’s just always wanting to let you know that his mental is is just better than yours you know in every way he’s also a little smug I think yeah 100% yeah and and doesn’t I’d be fine with arrogance and smugness if it also had a tone of playfulness he’s like dead ass about it too takes it so serious even when he was like truthfully Clea I haven’t thought about it give an f it’s like so and that felt like such a contrived F bomb like it wasn’t even organic no and I’m like bro you Dr four F bombs in this press conference and you also it up by saying you’ve been paying attention to everything that everybody is saying in the last six weeks and it’s been one hell of a ride to be a part of the content aggregation machine or whatever he called it like you didn’t have to say all that if you really don’t care right one of the things that I I hypothesize though is is JJ because you know we can feel however we feel about him I’m the jury’s still out for me as a as with him as a coach like maybe he is Pat Riley I don’t know but come on um do you think JJ is like that with non-nba players because he look he holds him I’m an NBA player and I know basketball more than you just don’t understand you don’t know but when he gets around NBA players he’s got a little bit more respect for working with them and H holding conversations with with him you think that’s the case with him because if it is he’ll be fine in that respect as a coach yeah I I’ve listened to a bunch of his podcasts when he talks to like Trey young and he talks to other players that he interviews and he’s got a really good memory and he’s got things in his chamber of what they do really well that he wants to break down so when he would interview players he would never try to criticize them and the whole interview was very positive and very much like highlighted the things about that player’s game that he thinks he wants to accentuate in a good way so I think that’s important I think his analytical Focus will be nice um a nice change of pace from what we saw with Frank Bogle and Darin ham but I don’t think we we can really say how it’s going to be how he’s going to be able to interact with players how his relationship with LeBron is GNA impact the locker room is is he gonna be very Anthony Davis focused because they need a center if Anthony Davis is going to be happy Anthony Davis can’t play five he just have said that since forever right like the time where it was really impactful was when it was him and and Boogie so he needs a big so does that mean that the Lakers try and get like a I don’t know somebody in free agency or try to get somebody in a trade hard to say but um yeah the relationship element will be interesting because he’s also not afraid to say what he thinks and it sounds pretty harsh when he’s delivering criticism do you think it’s an eventful couple of days in the NBA yeah I think there’s so much going on yeah I mean I think everything I I hear in terms of free agency this should be a a pop and that’s why I think summer league is gonna be good is because I don’t think it’s about the players that are playing in it I think it’s more about all the stuff that could happen in free agency like when when for example Russell Westbrook got traded to the Rockets I was sitting five feet from Dan Tony and I watched him see it pop up on Bleacher Report on his I watched him like look down go kind of like okay then I I like looked at my phone and I was like oh okay then he looks up looks around and I like [Laughter] oh you know what I just thought about um it’s an Olympic year so isn’t there going to be like Olympic exhibition games in Vegas that’s usually what happens huh they should be already gone by then I think they’ll be summer league is a little later than it normally summer is is is Summer League the I think it’s like 15 third week second week well to the 22nd yeah they they pushed it back a little bit isn’t that how it used to go they play like uh maybe the following during that would make sense because the women starts on the 27th the Olympics starts on the 27 yeah so the women are leaving the 22nd or the 21st it might be the 21st because they’re leaving the day after the the allstar game a league after that yeah the league will shut down for a month US versus Canada is Wednesday July 10th maybe I should go to that one that’s in Vegas yeah yeah hey those things be popping I haven’t gone to a game the city is a buzz when us Team USA is there well that’s because all the big dogs are there yeah yeah all the all the all the big boys are there um July 10th well we’re glad the Secret Service didn’t get you TK we were we we would have been in consolable if we found out that you got shot because you were walking down President Obama’s Street when you shouldn’t have been despite the giant sign that said do not enter um we’re glad you’re good in my head it was like well other people do live on this block what if it’s me I’m guessing there’s like eight passes that you have to show like an electricity bill and you have to have your mother’s like thing like you get into the door now you guys block now you guys sound like my mom my mom always jumps to like the worst possible thing whenever I tell her a story like this and she’s like well did you have any ID did you have any proof that you were your Airbnb was one block over what would they what would what would have happened if they would have just escorted you to the one block over they weren’t gonna do that Mom yeah I’m sorry escorting you to the next block is not the worst case scenario like it’s a like it’s damn casino and they’re walking to the back of the casino hey is your house over here if not I’mma break your hand oh we love you TK you are the best Storyteller on the planet love you guys all right we’ll see you next week that’s a girl Trista cek heat check podcast the real the real heat check maybe that’s the new name the real heat check podcast oh no Odyssey lawyers need to that’s facts ramp up yeah yeah straight up um we’ll come back uh we’ll get back into this basketball talk as well um lot more names to discuss a lot more things to discuss Jason Jones coming up in 45 minutes as well in Sacramento sports leader ESPN 1320 Roman’s dad passed away that’s sad to see yeah seeka I saw something blood never die and they showed how many kids everybody has and there’s it goes like 40 kids dud so you think 10 of them might get business they’re all GNA be wrestlers so how weak does that secret service got to be for Trista C to get all the way down there yeah I don’t know I don’t know they could have seen him and just thought they weren’t a threat and decided to yell at him later or they didn’t have snipers on the roof hide Park is beautiful though absolutely beautiful I’d love to go to Chicago again I haven’t been there in a very very long time there’s one place I want to go to go at the right time and man those airports can be a [ __ ] like just plan on to travel delay of sorts but trist is comedy man Absolute Comedy UFC 303 this Saturday I don’t know either one of those people are on the screen the Alex Pereira guy is pretty cool okay I don’t know the guy’s fighting though I don’t know those guys giraff party tomorrow baby absolutely can’t wait for that feel like we haven’t got to hang out for a while man it’s going to be a good time what was the last time we hung out was it the was it the last time we were at Tom’s yes it’s what I was thinking the was that the national championship I think so yeah yeah this will be fun Wrigley’s amazing wasn’t that the Monday after WrestleMania I think yeah cuz we were watching Raw on our phones yeah with that weird 45 minute promo with The Rock and Cody oh wow that’s brutal by the way I don’t know if you know there’s still a ton of pizza it’s just all in the RO refrigerator I don’t know why Kim’s in such a hurry to put it away Kimberly Chicago in September and it was beautiful can’t wait to go back one day yeah it’s a good spot never been to Chicago love to go yeah feel like checking out a Bears game would be cool yeah well it’s fair true town yeah unless I can check out a Bears game in the spring I ain’t doing that well that gets tricky because the other a couple years ago when hope you can join us tomorrow Tom’s watch bar five o’clock right there in doco next to the golden one Center come hang out with us man we are going to have a good time as the NBA draft gets underway and as the Sacramento Kings make a selection question mark well they’ll make a selection the question is is it for them or is it for somebody else exactly um at number 13 so uh come through Tom’s watch bar uh five o’clock Ramsey will have headphones so he can hear the the the PX called even though there was volume on all throughout I love I love Tom watch are ever not had volume on I don’t think so well we were just talking about that like I was like is this the first event we’ve done since the national championship at Tom’s watch bar and it is yeah our next Sky River Event is until September man so it’s gonna be lit though this this that’s what great like it’s Tom’s watch bar but like anybody like it’s not like Sky River Casino where you have to be 21 and over to get in like come you know it’s a good chance for the for the kids to come out or whoever man come through we’re gonna we’re gonna have fun tomorrow got two things real quick a little short segment here um number one um presented by Rolex at 224 yeah Ben said Subway’s original sandwiches are ass but their newer steak sandwiches are decent he also said Jim booy slander is wild now what we say 224 and 226 that might have been a 1250 discussion yeah he’s he’s he’s a ways behind getting sttik at Subway is insane I was I was shout out Ben but no no we are we’re all friends we’re all friends wasn’t we all need to be real with each other it’s a steak sandwich we sure that that steak don’t do that POS don’t do that Subway it’s not steak bro that’s fake are we positive that that’s steak don’t do that to Subway don’t do that the other thing that I was gonna talk about that I just thought was um it really doesn’t pertain to anything that we’re necessarily interested in but I just thought this was kind of interesting it’s kind of interesting so you know the Phoenix Coyotes did you hear about that situation you know at the end of the regular season they played their last game as the Phoenix Coyotes they’re moving to Utah uh in the NHL Utah Hockey Club or something like that so they’re moving to Utah part of the deal with the NHL because Arizona’s been a mess for a long time playing at ASU it’s like a 5000 seat Arena or something like that and they were like look man you got to get the figured out so we can’t keep doing this we’re going to let this team go to Utah you got five years to figure out an arena and if you figured out an arena in that five years you can have expansion and like you’re there you have it like you just have to figure out the arena thing we’ll give you an expansion club and the owner was like okay cool sounds good I’ll sign over the Utah thing right now because we gonna work on this we’re GNA uh get the arena and get expansion well today he announced that he quits all that he said I’m I’m not doing this I’m done so Arizona hockey is over okay but that’s CRA can you imagine that though like if the kings were to leave because they couldn’t figure it out Anda is like all right let them go I’m gonna figure out the arena thing we gonna get the Kings back here in expansion and then like two months later he says nah I’m done I’m not this tried to change it’s just not for me that was that was wild how abrupt that was in almost as if it was premeditated man because I I think oh I think he got some money I don’t know I think he got some money to let that team go to Utah I I think I don’t know but that’s crazy two months lat he didn’t even really like try for a couple years and be like now we couldn’t get it done I’m out we’re not I’m not doing this anymore I don’t mean to laugh that suck but damn hey maybe Fisher will do that you know what never mind BC you can have it I’m out I’m leaving whatever gets them to stay whatever gets them to stay um I’m not GNA pretend to be super familiar with Corey Perry’s body of work who uh Corey Perry the human Buffalo Bills I believe man this brother brother I’m using that term relative my man has been on four of the last five losing teams in the Stanley Cup finals oh man that in 2020 lost to Tampa Bay in 2021 he lost to Tampa Bay again in 2022 he lost to Colorado last night he lost to Florida that was a that was a really exciting game I’m not like I’m super hockey guy well that moment that moment with was it like three minutes left where it feels like there’s 40 guys down there by the by the net and they couldn’t get the they had about four or five chances it felt like it did to to tie it up and then oh I was I don’t know the rules I was like when they got all in the corner with 15 seconds left I’m like hey shouldn’t he blow the whistle for a face off no they just stayed over there for the final 15 seconds of the game and it’s over seconds the dog pile I said hey isn’t there a whistle for a face off coming up no that’s how it is no damn uh Conor McDavid won the consite despite his team losing uh sent me down a little bit of rabit hole apparently that’s it’s most common in hockey he I believe is the sixth skater to get it uh to get that award that’s the equivalent of the MVP trophy and it’s also MVP for the postseason um but he he um he’s the sixth skater to get it for the team that lost in the stand the Cup Final he’s the first to get it since 1976 wow question for you okay in the other four in the other three major American Sports how many do you think how many times do you think that that’s happened I’m going to say uh three times three times it is as noted here in my notes kind of rig game is this it’s good see you know what you know what the cold part was how he guessed that and like didn’t tip the fact that it’s actually in here in our notes so we really don’t know how many times he’s cheated pocket watch let know from time to time hey by the way I’m gonna cheat on this game like that’s literally what what Casey does it’s happened once in the Super Bowl Super Bowl five it happened uh once in the World Series uh and of course Very famously Jerry West did it are you of the belief that LeBron should have won it one of those two years the Cavs lost a lot of people said he should have won in 15 I mean a lot of people said he should have won I think 18 no question he was the best player on the floor um but that’s tough to me it doesn’t happen very often I mean 69 I me it’s never happened since Jerry West Jerry West is the only one 50 years so I think the the the so the Conor McDavid is the first I think period yeah he is the first since 1976 um because we remember Chuck Cy was that was Super Bowl five so that’s 50 50ish years ago that I I don’t know that’s a that’s a tough I’m okay with it not going to a losing play like that’s part of that’s part of winning right play should never get it you weren’t valuable enough to win I don’t I don’t think that’s I wouldn’t look at it that way I would just say that’s that’s part of being being on the winning team you get the the MVP that comes with i i and that makes sense to me that makes sense to me but LeBron James was the best player on the I’m just saying like like like you suck the guy the guy who won is the most valuable what I hear you he sees this he’s trying to what he’s doing is he’s working through a way to take the he thinks you’re trying to take Jaylen Brown’s trophy away from him not at all not at all you do HA J Brown I don’t hate jayen no we have to we have to go there was long conversation with we got a reset we’ll come back we’ll talk more Kings we’ll talk more NBA uh and we’re gonna we’re gonna try to make the Sacramento Kings better over the course of the next five six seven days or so seea and Casey brought to you by Sky River Casino on sacramental Sports leader ESPN 1320 looked up it was already 44 I was like whoops wait wait Gotta Go Gotta Go so help me out Ramsay so the the so the difference is last SK your boy is a goalie and Connor is is a skater that’s the difference what would it take to get the king’s Moses Moody I like Moses Moody we we answer that on the show because I saw something I saw something about that got you [Music] Ramsey reck seemed blank at presser like a dick did you guys talk about Lori markeing should we did I miss something I don’t know you know I I I’m I don’t want to come off like JJ reic here because I don’t I don’t mean to be that way I just it just stuck out to me uh kill pie I’m not I don’t even have a problem with what he said but it’s just just just a random com like we were it wasn’t a top of discussion just just felt he needed to get it in I’m with it I don’t have any pro like I said I don’t even disagree with yeah I like the line of thinking I just like it’s like if I went you know what I’m going do that I’m going go into somebody’s chat right now and just say something random which one I’ll go to 957 I’ll go okay go 957 there might actually be people in there so what you guys what you guys want me to say I would just say something Kendrick Lamar is better than Drake I I I want to see bberry says tell them boys to send us Wiggins I’ll do I’ll I’ll put both of them they’re going to than you’re Alex over there yep there it is get carway I’m anxious to see the chat’s response to [Music] this well there’s Alex Alex is over [Laughter] there it’s just it’s just a random comment it just just goes through they’re paying no attention to you at all they’re treating you like you’re KC in La this is terrible hey send another messenger like hey I’m KC in La this is terrible they just completely ignored you wow oh wait wait a minute minute Kenny carway who win One V one in basketball Kendrick or Drake I don’t even know how to respond on here how do I respond oh I don’t type in the chat I don’t want to report him no I think you just type back in the chat I think you could at him yeah that’s what I was trying to figure out how to do they complete oh Kendrick well boom box Benny says Kendrick Lamar is better than Drake oh okay now wait a minute now y’all are in the chat what the hell is going on over here come back get your asses back over here come back John bull goddamn it get out of the chat the 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boy and Alcatraz the same week it might have been that Alcatraz conversation crazy we solved that too by the way yeah yeah they survived that was one of the most epic yeah that was definitely an epic show moment for sure that really was I think Malik mon like all things considered might be the greatest show of all time mon I never seen nothing like Malik mon King’s playoffs didn’t even there were 4,100 people watching live when Malik monk day went crazy yeah that was that was niut okay Manny Alex Bryce get out of there leave them alone and get back here street lights are on come home man Drew Down says Alcatraz sh out Mitch oh Mitch can he come back he’s just on a little he’s he’s leave right now worry he knows he’s just he’s just on a little breather right now he’s relaxing enjoying retirement we’ll we’ll we’ll we’ll talk to we’ll talk to mitchan [Music] soon now I got to get out of the chat to make sure it looks like everyone has left and has come back so thank you thank you for coming back close this Willard’s looking a little befun here poor Willard doing a lot of squinting at the chat shut it down again the the the chat DX and Asians are lowkey a little funny gimmick they’re hilarious they’re hilarious man uh during the break though somebody did ask a a Basketball Kings related question that um I thought was pretty interesting right so somebody said something about how can the Kings get Moses Moody and I drew down was like look they’re not trading Moody to the Kings I agree with them I don’t think it’s happening but Monty p um I don’t know if he had an article or what but I saw a tweet that was you know of a quote from him at some point this has to go but it hasn’t [Music] yet definitely can’t go to it’s a draft it’s the anniversary speak that’s a good point good point um but Monty P says um The Warriors have exhibited no desire to part ways with kaminga Moody pods or Trace Jackson Davis it’s understandable it is understandable but if so let me ask you this if kaminga could get you Paul George while you have Steph Curry right now that’s different that’s different I agree that’s different I I agree I I I think I think to a certain degree like if it was Paul George for pods like yeah they trade Paul George but like there’s a trade package that involves one of those guys I think they’re hesitant to move on from them for for almost anybody that’s relative including Moody yeah I think so I would I would move on from like you just kind of alluded to I would move on from kaminga for Paul George yeah that might be the only person I’d move on like real like like realistically that’s probably the only player I i’ strongly consider I got to be honest Paul George or moving Paul George is the only player i’ consider moving kaminga for I got yeah sorry I didn’t communicate that um again realistic Kyle kma for kaminga I don’t think so Brandon Ingram I’m I’m gonna need uh Brandon Ingram says he’s gonna resign yep I would too yep I like kaminga I like kinga’s Talent um I think kaminga is really good I think he’s a talented player I don’t see him as any more than like your third best player on a really good team like on a championship Contender I think that’s a that’s all right you don’t think he could be your number two I don’t think I could be wrong he’s very talented he started to score at a high level um as the season went along last year but like remember I think we talked about it on here and maybe it’s just the makeup of the team but we were like as a Kings fan or people who observe watch going up against the Warriors can want to score 25 let him like let him fine we need to make sure these other guys don’t don’t get cooking we’re not going to lose because kaminga went for 25 I think kaminga could be a two he might be able to I might be giv up position to he could like he could I think he could be Steph’s guy to be honest with you but but I I I I I got you I’d rather that guy be I feel like if so that this is the part that I’m hung up on let’s let’s let’s go with this for a second because there seems to be some Rumblings about Paul George and it does actually tie a lot of things together if there’s validity to it because I saw Chris Paul link to the to the Clippers and I was like like how and why well now it makes sense if there is some validity to this Paul George uh Golden State thing are they a championship Contender if they get Paul George I don’t think so and I’m assuming Clay’s gone gone so it’s it’s Paul George it’s Steph’s still the guy Draymond better or worse is still there got I’m assuming kaminga is gone yeah that’s what I’m thinking too or maybe he’s not because Chris Paul’s the focus of this true very true but why would the Clippers do that the Clippers don’t get better if they get Chris Paul back no with all due respect like they would have to have Jonathan kaminga in this deal I would they something they’d have to have kaminga or in any deal that I’m doing for Paul George which which is a little you know what I just thought of too you you gotta sign him gotta sign Paul George yeah yeah this is actually starting to make more sense this is why they’ll let clay go yeah like we won’t pay you four years such and such amount of dollars we’ll pay him though but the problem with that is so I mean I guess the question is whether or not you think you’re a uh Championship Contender because that doesn’t eliminate the real problem if you’re Lake up in the Warriors yes Draymond Green so sorry that’s that’s not what that guy still here my bad the real problem is your tax bill is crazy for a team that is a they’re more than a borderline they’re around a borderline playoff team at that point like I think they’re but do they view it the way that we view it do they look like hey Paul George can get us he might be able to open this thing up for Steph a little bit longer one of the things that that you think about with that is just the way these playoffs went right like Dallas I don’t think Dallas was this phenomenal team but they got hot they got the right matchups and they were able to get to the finals and if you’re the Warriors maybe you’re looking at it like that like we we just that’s a tough way to live yeah a tough way to live it is um but does if they get Paul that’s an expensive way to live too that’s the thing if they get Paul George are they would you say they’re better than OKC I’d have to see it first my my gut says no better than Minnesota see it uh again my gut says no but he might be able to convince me on that one better than Denver um I don’t think so better than Dallas yes or the the worst on par with Dallas so you could be certainly not better than Sac no we I don’t even have to ask that question we already know what happens when they come through here now last year as of the last couple months right as of the playing tournament um so I mean it I think it’s a a a move worth worth doing and worth trying but I don’t know I mean I think there’s still there’s still a little concerned with Paul George when them lights are on and you know you know that’s my boy you had a m MVP I know I was wrong well you were playoff PE wrong but that’s my that’s my boy is your guy that’s my boy but in that series that just happened in the playoffs he had that great game in game four and really like did not game five was non-existent and then game six non-existent again and that’s like the story aside from one playoff it’s like the story of Paul George so when you talk about like championship and going into a a a postseason run if if he’s your second best player like why is domas up there isn’t that domas that is domas Adrien wowski is doing his hit at the at the I guess it’s the barlay center yeah and for some reason domas was on the draft screen behind him in a number 10 Jersey that was a trap um never forget that day the Kings drafted him oh somebody getting traded that’s what they’re that’s what they’re promoting oh there we go there we go they need to move the draft around too by the way Allah NFL you think so yeah that’ be fun once again have it here in Sacramento one time yeah I don’t think they’re ever going to give us anything no but um yeah I it could it could make him Championship Contender I don’t know I don’t know like I said you might not have to give or anything else like that I got think you if you didn’t have to give up kaminga to do it then I I think you’re in a far better position than if you had to but where so but for the Warriors like where where’s he gonna play I don’t know you still got that that 23 just hanging around and if you try to put 23 at the center you’re way too small tra him we Joe we talked about this yesterday nobody wants him maybe fake bring him off the bench or something well maybe have him tell everyone he wants to come off the bench hey Draymond be pretty cool if your next episode was about you being taking one for the team and coming off the bench well but you but you you know you know how I look at these things it’s not about that it’s about who’s at the in the game at the end and is he gonna go on his podcast be like I volunteered to not finish the game because I know I’m not that good anymore more and quite frankly everybody’s better when I’m not out there and I’m a team player if you don’t understand that then you don’t understand basketball I understand basketball and I understand I’m not good I don’t think he’s gonna say that though that would be the most downloaded episode of this podcast in history I love this they’re back with Adrian W Janowski was in the background oh come on it’s this is what kind of crazy game are they playing this is a shoot it was domas a minute ago they run some be look it’s domas again they were on the screen at the same time so when they the only two players the only two players who have been on the screen is domas and Tyrese halberton what sort of level 10 troll job is this oh man that’s crazy lit those two domont came back up again that’s incred crazy absolutely incredible um man the Rumblings around uh Golden State are are I think Mike dun was even talking about them yesterday um yeah what happens with Paul George would be fascinating um but it does explain why Chris Paul was linked to the Clippers doesn’t explain why he was linked to the Warriors um there was also sorry no go ahead it was it’s about Paul George yeah yeah I think we’re going the same place yeah was there was a a rumor I guess report conversation something I think that’s oh so okay that an optin and a trade is something that has at least that at least is out there for your New York Knicks I don’t they might be able to do it without doing this but I’m gonna be labeled a hater and I’m gonna ask the questions try Keegan Murray again absolutely not if if you’re the Knicks do you sign OG or trade for Paul George and sign him trade for Paul George and sign him are you sure yeah that’s that’s what I yeah yeah because the goal is to win a championship even though the window might be a little bit smaller with Paul George I think the window’s like more open can the Knicks do both if I’m the knck honestly if I’m the Knicks I think I’m going to try and hold on to OG and figure out at that point like truthfully at that point I think OG’s like I’m good bro I’m not doing this because again I drawback on our conversation with TK maybe he doesn’t and and some things that we heard maybe he doesn’t necessarily love uh the um what’s the right way of putting this the the the the the the heavily influenced Brunson offense like we look at OG as a man he’s a really really really good Defender boy want to he want to touch the ball too and man this Jaylen is Jaylen can be a as we saw during the playoffs he did it as at at an extraordinary level and this is the thing with Jaylen it’s still very very new so barring winning an NBA championship next year or or the year after jaylen’s going to experience like some uncomfortable things that he probably hasn’t had said about him before and it all worked during the playoffs because it felt like that man could not miss a shot crazy and it was magnified by 10 because the fourth quarter would get here and I think he would literally not miss a shot and so there’s G to come a point there’s a lot of OneTouch possessions it’s Brunson and the Knicks need a bucket and brunson’s going to go get it well when that shot doesn’t fall and it doesn’t fall for like a stretch of time he’s going to get some criticism for that and then that’s going to be that and and and at the same time that’s going to be frustrating for his Nicks teammates I think that’s something that OG might have been feeling a little bit so the idea of OG and Paul George on the Knicks seems ridiculous I think I’d stick with OG over PG though if I came down either or why do you hate Paul George he’s old no I what is Paul George 30 oh yeah that’s tough I think the Knicks found something with OG last year I think they were like I don’t know if the talk I I think they were like 23 and three what yeah you’re right yeah the number’s insane you guys numbers numbers were crazy yeah they they they found the formula was working for all of them and I think like I think like if they’re healthy next year going to next season I think they’re the second best team in the East with OG I have a lot of crossed out numbers here but I think it’s 18 18 and three 18 and three maybe right goodness gracious 18 and three when I think if when if he’s healthy and they’re all healthy and stuff like that I think they’re the second best team in the East and I think you could still go out and make a move you trade Julius Randall or something what do you that’s well you got aha so here’s the deal when you talk about when you talk about o the idea of OG and Paul George they’ve got a lot of money that they could trade and match up I I think they still have Evan forier s don’t think he was traded at all last year I think they have his 20 million right there uh banovic might have been a expiring but they got him they got Julius Randall they got Mitchell Robinson that you can move on a commodity yeah that you can move on because hardenstein now you gotta sign hardenstein hardenstein is a free agent so that’s you’re gonna be adding some money back to that but you may be able to and then the the assets they have is as far as the the pick game that they have I don’t know when this ends I saw this on ESPN I don’t I don’t know what year this is going up to but they show that the Knicks have nine first round picks and seven second round picks I’m assuming over maybe the next three or four years of draft picks that’s a lot that you could like and if I’m the Clippers one thing that I’m looking for that the Warriors might not be able to offer me is I I need some draft capital if the Knicks want to do a deal and they want to put in two first round picks in a second round pick I need that because I don’t have any control over my draft picks for a while Nicks have two first round picks this year for next year damn four first round wow four first round picks next year they have protections let me look at it real quick wow they have their own they have Milwaukee they have Washington’s which is one through 10 protected and then they have Detroits which is one through 13 I guess as getting that one so if if I’m the Clippers that’s that’s one of the things I’m looking at I need to get back in the draft so let’s let’s try this conversation differently does Paul George make anyone a championship Contender yeah I think so I think he makes the Nicks a championship Contender so wait you do think he makes them a championship Contender but with OG I’m not that’s not are they a champion okay I like them better with OG than with Paul George so if OG resigns you you’ve got the Knicks as a title Contender yeah I’ll say the second best team in theast yeah they get to e com finals yes yes yeah they’re title contenders yes no they’re title contenders yes you yeah yeah I think they’re like Jesse said one of the top two teams in maybe top three or something like that who who who else Milwaukee uh I mean I I like what you talk about with Indiana as far as regular season and like being able to stack wins and and where your standings would be I can see Indiana in the top three yeah I think they’re going to be better next year I think Milwaukee will be up there too as well all right I’m sure they will but I I I I gotta hold I gotta hold on to my my the Pacers take was a bit bold so I got to stick with it I got to stick with it for now Orlando but I I would have the Knicks right there that’s he’s got some he’s got some teams Orlando Orlando I’m not there I feel like Orlando’s gonna make a mistake when they sign play not there yet that might one of those it’s like it’s not gonna work people talk like clay had a bad year last year I know think clay with the magic need though for that next step yeah they need a shooter I everybody thinks they need a shot Creator I don’t I don’t think you necessarily need that you need somebody to keep the people off of poo and make sure Pao always goes one-on-one you need a just a knockdown shooter and Clay could give you that if you can get somebody like Paul George that could create as well absolutely you try to do that too but clay helps them out a lot I think I think uh Pino shout out to our guy penino jersey stand up uh the kings are a contender with PG now they’re not gonna get him but to answer your question yeah n Peno right yeah right damn hey that’d be crazy Fox monk PG Murray and sabonis oh my God yeah that’s that’s a little myty get on the phone yeah was signning trade gave you the 13th pick Harrison Barnes Kevin herder yeah what’s not appealing about that Kevin herder flamethrower oh thank you thank you Jesse gettings get 13th pick shobe Tapia in there maybe you get Don connect who knows we’ll come back Jason Jones joins us we’ll talk more NBA we’ll talk sorry Collins wants to know no no it’s Ste here on Sacramento sports leader run us out I said if he saw it he’s gonna run us out here no go ahead go ahead get your [ __ ] off I wanted to get shocked when you’re doing the I just wanted I want to see his reaction to that [Laughter] song oh man I don’t understand this are they doing a throwback 80s or something like that yeah I think the uh this the old Jessie Ventura uh Bob uker thing bober say T great less feeling I think that’s what that was I tried to remember what the sound was but that was the old Bob uker had Bob uker is with us right he yes he’s still still working he still calls yeah the the clip with Andre at WrestleMania 4 is so iconic where Andre is able to wrap both of his hands around his neck and Shake him well Drew down that’s that’s what Jack caros said real was that an edited video I didn’t listen to it yeah it was uh it was real the guy who was doing the interview was supposed to send the clip to complex before it got out we were gonna have the exclusive and then Sacramento huh yeah he was the dad on Mr beler you see Steve we appreciate you for always tapping in uh you always have the worst takes thank you for subscribing though yeah we appreciate you do I mean I’m just saying like it’s I mean not everybody in the chatty house has to have great takes and UC see Steve is Tim hate watches the show and uh UC Steve just says weird stuff yeah Bob uker is doing well that’s I I thought he was still with us because I feel like I remember hearing one of his calls last year I think um Bob buer was old at WrestleMania 4 like how old is how old he was only 34 remember remember Sparky Anders oh always hilarious like yeah look at this guy he’s 80 he’s actually 26 so let’s do the math here uker is 90 oh so he wasow something so that had to been 40 years ago Wrestlemania 40 so four with 30 wow he’s 37 years ago 36 years ago I feel like I’ve seen Yer like this year he doesn’t he livs fine for 90 like I think I saw him I think he still calls games and I think they’re um I don’t think he does like all nine innings think he you know the man is 90 I hope he doesn’t for God’s sakes it’s Bob yuker here in the 18th inning go Extra Innings on four Bob well he does look like a 90y old let’s well let me see him now I don’t know like well I’m I’m assuming this picture from the sports business that looks like a 90-year old man I mean he’s smiling like shoot Love it5 Bob buer WWE Hall of Famer that’s him recently look pretty good for 90 Bob uker what what that’s this is this is from 2018 well I’m glad to see he still doing his thing I wonder if Andre the Giant has ever cut a coherent promo oh Bob uker looks way better at WrestleMania 4 than I thought uh don’t mind me um Jason Jones just texts us he’s running a couple of minutes late so now I’m watching it gives us more time to Bob uker and Andre the Giant I’m watching Andre the Giant and Bob uker together at WrestleMania 4 like Bob uker is gold just the look on his face and I think he says at the end like hey you mind getting your foot off my shoulder Andre the Giant look like he got a million teeth [Laughter] choked out that on the giant out B yeah the look on UK like he’s so great like this is just so epic no That’s a classic that is such an epic clip lry the Giant dockham on HBO it’s an altimer I think we seen that I have yeah I thought it was about I thought it was good really no I I I thought it the there’s one part that bothered me and I asked is it I think it was Jason hair that was that was uh Carmichael Dave’s homie yeah and Dave was like Hey Jason’s doing a doc on Andre do you want to talk to him I was like yeah absolutely so I got to see the doc like a c like a little bit before it aired because he was coming on the show The the day of the documentary and there’s that scene where Hogan is talking about writing out the match and leaving the Finish blank that is such a lie that’s from three three he said he he said he wrote the match out and they show this like pad and I in and so I’ll get to the next part of the story but they show this pad where he’s writing um uh three punches uh uh fallback uh duck clo line try to slam Andre fall back like he he’s riding the match out on this yellow notepad and I asked jaseon and I was like when Hogan told you that like what did you do he was like well we asked him to write it out like we recreated the scene of him writing it out I was like did you vet that with anybody and he goes no we just thought it was part of you know the story that we told it’s [Laughter] first of all no one writes their match out but the worst part about that was the most I guess I guess a weird way of putting it the most famous match that has ever been written out like on a yellow pad any guesses was WrestleMania 3 Savage versus Steamboat Macho Man was so like he wanted that match to be so perfect he wrote it out that’s why if you ever hear Ricky Steamboat talk about it he doesn’t like it because he doesn’t feel like the match is organic he feels like it’s it’s for it’s a weird word he feels like it’s fake yeah because it’s like we didn’t feel the crowd we didn’t do anything we just did what Macho Man wrote on the paper and Macho would quiz Ricky Steamboat like hey what spot 45 uh yeah duck hit the ropes clothesline and when I saw Hogan write that out again I have this softt SP softt spot in my heart for Hulk Hogan bro why did you make that up there’s like what was the point of that it was this whole we didn’t know if Andre was gonna lose yes you did yes you did he was brought in specifically he was off filming The Princess Bride Vince is redacted it’s told the story a million times he didn’t want to wrestle anymore his back couldn’t do it I begged him could you come back we need this moment for you but more importantly we need this moment for him him meaning Hulk Hogan and they had this thing with the Pontiac Silverdome booked they were able to pull it off there was never well if Andre doesn’t want to lose he’s not gonna lose to no yes he is so was there um because I think didn’t Hogan say he wasn’t sure if Andre was gonna let him sup him is that you think that’s real like he at the very least he didn’t let Hogan know if he was going to let him do it I don’t believe that either because he tells the story uh he said slam me boss no he didn’t like it like Hogan you know this was shot from like 20 different angles right like you can you can see that at no point do they get up and does Andre go slam me boss like come on Hulk no the spot in that moment of the match you can see Andre does the the stumble away he turns around and almost immediately lifts his body up in the air so Hogan can slam him watching it right now it’s just they they turned the camera he might have just said it the man lies just for the sake of lying and I was mad at Jason for not vetting that like okay let’s just pretend like you didn’t write this out on a legal pad and let let’s let’s just tell the story you think he he’s he’s a worse a bigger liar than LeBron right like oh my God oh my God if those two could have a versus Hulk Hogan and LeBron James in a lie verses on Elon musk’s X I would watch I I know um it’s all obviously all scripted and and Andre worked to make that moment happen but I’m watching right that is pretty impressive he SL well yeah because Andre couldn’t get up like if you look back like there’s clips of I think Camala and Harley Race slamming Andre but it’s like Andre gets up yeah like Andre gets up probably there’s probably five guys that have slammed Andre there’s I mean there’s obviously there’s a a technique to being able to do it Hogan didn’t necessarily lift him up by himself but he he slammed him John bull said put Hulk Hogan in front of Taylor Rooks and see what Li he says that’s a movable object versus irresistible Force oh my God that man once said he was going to be a part of matelica like that’s the that’s the one right there oh man and I I I forget that the the the guy he was like yeah that’s not true that is absolutely not true there was oh there was some oh there it is well you know Brett they they talk about me being a Simmons guy but they know every part of that dock these two you know Bill Simmons did produce that dock who’s the Bill Simmons guy now looks like these two you are you’re the Bill Simmons guy don’t don’t try to look like these two are the the Simmons guys HBO what no no no let’s let’s be clear you call it the Bill Simmons produce doc if you want to let’s be clear what a producer is it means this was part of the 3030 FR and it was just his idea he didn’t it wasn’t 30 for30 it was part of HBO First of all all documentaries have been called are now 30 for 30s moving forward if it’s a sports documentary it’s a 30 for30 moving forward 30 years of ESPN was like 10 years ago we saw them still call them 30 those man I gotta I gotta tip my hat they killed them yeah they did that I remember there was just like it was like a oneoff it was like an original slate they had all of these document like 10 of them or like maybe and then it was uh this well I guess it was 30 this was a hit and we kept it yeah they kept kept it going and fired Simmons so do what you got to do Simmons went off on Roger Goodell and they fired didn’t he say I dare them to fire me did and John Skipper was like all right and it was It was kind of CRA like to me it’s not fireable he’s like he’s like uh Goodell is a liar I said it he’s a liar I dare them to fire me they fired they fired him they fired him for calling him man what what that’s that’s a fireball fence what was he well when that’s your main partner it was I think it was Brady I think it was uh the flight gate yeah oh man I dare him to fire me that is tough that is tough oh man Simmons is winning man didn’t didn’t he sell like that that podcast Network to Spotify for like a billy or half a billy or something like that he did something crazy he he ended up being okay I don’t know if he was actually fired he got suspended his contract was running out a handful of months later and they just didn’t renew it he got suspended for that though oh no he definitely did it like two or three weeks got 196 million for the ringer didn’t bill but that’s still a lot of yeah didn’t Bill take credit for the uh Lebron what was that the the decision yeah yeah he took credit for that I ner that one so if memory serves me correctly he said it originated from his mailbag he said it originated from his mailbag and someone suggested that LeBron should do his free agency such and such on a live television special and so he takes crit and then and then and then and then the LIE much like Hogan the LIE evolved into him meeting with Maverick and LeBron and pitching the idea directly to to Maverick hey Maverick yeah Johnny 360 um on my mailbag guy I said should this way you know Maverick my mailbag they suggested that you do like a decision so is it now a triple threat versus with Bill Simmons LeBron James and special referee but like like Hogan and LeBron are like that’s Bruno San Martino type stuff right there like Legends the decision it originated for me uh I mean in my mail I have to what is what is Hogan’s Top Line in this versus like we’ll probably go with the Godfather for LeBron or what are we going with LeBron LeBron’s top li no it’s 81 like Le I forgot about that one yeah no I I told he gonna score 80 tonight bro sit down what is Hogan’s Top Line well I mean joining arguably the biggest rock group in history it would would probably be up there there’s one he tell that kills me’s like yeah I was talking to Muhammad Ali one time and Muhammad Ali comes up to me he’s like you’re the best OK you’re the best number one H you’re number one and I told Mohamed no Muhammad you’re number one all right bro no that’s up there that’s you know there there’s a oh there’s another person who could get into this this lie versus who who we who well redacted no no is is it our boy it’s a former King’s assistant coach I’m GNA let y’all think on that for a while look yeah you put that together quick yeah come on man I can’t even I can’t even say much more just oh you saw he said g leave the gender out of it I gotta be honest I missed I missed this because I got Simmons’s Wikipedia page in front of me and it says Simmons faced widespread critique in 2013 when he linked local fans ambivalence about the Memphis Grizzlies chances lingering trauma surrounding the of Martin Luther King yeah I mean it’s I think honestly when when the something goes wrong in the arena they kind of just shell up and I think some of it has to do with the fact that the MLK assassination happened there okay so Jason we’re trying to what does it have to do with the Spurs going on a 10 run what what J Jason Jones were trying to figure out who the big liar is between Bill Simmons LeBron James and Hulk Hogan oh hold on we got we got Jason we we got no sound from you uh I’m not sure what it is you’re not muted but we don’t have any sound from you Jay hang on J J Jay’s getting to the Bluetooth oh we got the Bluetooth in now we got do we got Jason Jones’s uh no no voice from Jason Jones oh that athletic that athletic computer oh that’s moving along the way of the Odyssey computer oh it’s been a it’s been a tough day it’s been a tough day for company issued computers no wait hang on hang on Jay Jay can you uh oh my bad can you unmute your mic at the bottom of the screen if you look down at a little bubble it says your mic is muted now it might be because you connected if you just click the little microphone because I can’t do it for you for some reason that how’s that there we there we go running late to busy busy day you know I’m sitting there going I can hear y’all fine you know and now I sound like a liar I’m about as bad as Hogan okay now who’s the biggest liar Jason Jones Hulk Hogan LeBron James it’s turned into a fatal four-way I see I’m not familiar with the lies of Bill Simmons I’m not talking ridiculous Bill Simmons did take credit for the decision he said it was his idea he said the the LeBron James he said it was his idea and the LIE evolved as the years went by that’s how you kind of know it’s a lie because the truth is the truth the LIE evolved so you get 10 15 years later he was like you know I wrote this I wrote the script for him told him I told him I picked the shirt out and everything for that day well then and then the crazy thing about it is he takes credit for um Coming Up with the decision and every chance he get he’s like that was just an awful idea for LeBron to do that like how could he do that like that that was just a bad idea by him and his team all right come on I I I can’t call I wasn’t familiar with him in that regard you know I I I said I’ve heard plenty of Hogan lies you know we’ve heard LeBron kind of bounce around on some facts before you know where he is in the oh man that’s a nice that’s a very Donald Trump way of putting it wow wow God I just just coming in high heat you know right under the chin you know 98 get me off the plate with that one get me off the plate now LeBron LeBron said I’ve I’ve had a rough I’ve had a rough 24 hours you know I’ve been getting JJ Reddit called andex well damn bro it’s it’s it’s it’s I mean people have been very you know aggressive toward me as if I made the decision you know look man so you’re saying you didn’t I they that Jeanie did not call me you know you know before making this decision you know we didn’t get a chance to talk and but I keep saying though Jay at the end of the day we don’t know what JJ’s gonna maybe JJ maybe JJ is gonna be Pat Riley which is what they saw there do you believe Rob pinkin when he said JJ was always plan A I actually do I believe he was always plan a I don’t know what happened with Dan her we deviated from plan a to go to plan AA well remember whated said he was always in the C he was always in the pool of a candidates so and I still I still think the hurle thing is fishy I I I never bought that I don’t I I no what is you know now that you’ve got Hurley doing interviews you know and you know his wife doing interviews I think there was a number I think the number was so egregious and outrageous they were never gonna offer it you know and so you make an offer that makes him top eight whatever highest paid coach knowing he’s not going to take it you know I I just never I never bought into that you know but you know people get on these podcast and say all type of wild things in the past seven days so hey the uh uh Dan Hurley’s wife doing interviews is a lot better than Matthew Stafford’s wife yeah I mean yeah I just oh boy I there was I I’m just sitting there going did she hate this man like what was the purpose of sharing that with the world well ever since he threw that girl off the stage at the gave it old treatment at the at the parade my no my favorite line was you know why she did this right she saw who Matt’s new backup is well Jimmy G well she she she’s she’s shooting her shot already she’s like hey he acts up you know you know where to find my car park laying the groundwork but I ain’t gonna do that that’s just that’s just nasty work like you you don’t want to act right I’m go get with your backup and park my car I’ll do it again that’s I mean that that was that was one of the wildest Things of you know now how they do the whole you know who who won the month the news of like like the kind of the the you know you know weird thing Calamity of the month I think she might have won she might have won June with that one oh well I mean I I I didn’t think anyone would knock Kendrick out of June but in terms of this random weirdness yeah she won June with the the confession no one everever needed to hear well the the late the late uh entry was the lady you talked about yesterday the lady outside the club well well yeah um which one uh the one who’s a fan of Tua yeah y yep that’s that’s the one big the big the big dolphins fan yeah yeah big big big big dolphins fan big big AJ Hawk Dolphin fan yeah AJ Hawk yeah like I just after after last Wednesday the world is just on on some other stuff people are just acting up now so I I just I just realized we haven’t talked to you since the the biggest moment in man La recent memory uh what was your juneth like with Amazon Prime running oh man we running around here my you know I know my youngest son is named after is named Kendrick so and I did not know that the age of 10 he knew all the words to they not like us so they hear him come about w w w [ __ ] and he’s running around yeah Drake can’t come to La he can’t come to California I said it’s rough on auy you got elementary school kids saying don’t come to California and you got elementary school kids on stage you know saying you like miners like that that line hits differently when a 10-year-old says a minor that is that’s and says keep your sister from him when when you got kids saying that I just said man yeah it’s not not not not good times for Aubry the only person sat her that day was the game H well the game said he was fine game said he was he said he he had love he my man did like a 18 minute video talking you know with more expletives about how yeah I just like and I like game I’m like man sometimes you can talk mess about so many people that they’re just like this St n we’re cool is I mean Kendrick though I can’t remember I think there’s issues with him and Dre and I think Kendrick’s yeah I think that’s where it started you know when he when after K after Kanye goes on his weird you know whatever stuff he’s on in the last few years and he comes out and says you know Kanye did more for my career than Dr Dre and then he’s mad because he’s not in the Super Bowl so he goes after Eminem and then no one really cared so then he goes after Rick Ross I mean I think it’s like well shoot I went after you know I can’t I he knows he can’t go after Kendrick he knows he can’t so rck Ross was there yeah Rick Ross was there rck Ross was at the in Englewood yeah yeah like yeah he was James Harden yeah so yeah I I I just think it that was a rough day for the game because everyone’s going how come the game never gets invited to this stuff well because the game doesn’t know how to act that’s why yeah I mean you I’m like you thought dissing Dr Dre repeatedly was going to get you anywhere yeah that’s something he’s got to he might got to make good and then and then you basically he basically took Drake’s side in this whole other thing you know took Drake side without saying it that Drake thing is something he’s gotta make good on cause cause I will say something like that the game should be a part of like if the game doesn’t know how to game punches people in like charity basketball games like how can you invite him you going to invite him to a an event that’s got Bloods and Crips on stage together you’re right right I mean they yeah you got Street dudes out there acting right I don’t trust the game to act right you know talk about the tournament of liars about the you know the round robin the Fatal Five way for liars game’s got to get in there too no G no that’s a good call games got some he’s got he dropped one what did he say he had a a top dog offered him half of TDE and he turned it down man all bro you know there there there we go a we got a push notification that I’m sure is I’m sure they’re having fun with on on Twitter but I I we we had to do the show did you see who has an interest in bronnie no allegedly oh I saw I hope that I hope that’s fake I hope Toronto oh man that’s why Savannah said LeBron can’t go on stage Oh that’s oh a different one I thought I was thinking about the other interest in bronnie what was that uh a certain former wife of of a former NBA Hall of Famer oh oh well no whose ex-husband played was was was you know the robin to Michael Jordan Batman oh wait a minute no someone put that’s why I said I thought thought you were referring to that I said said I pray that’s fake that just be oh that I hope not that’s why I was like what I’m like that’s got it would be funny but I hope that’s not yeah yeah okay so talking about the Toronto Raptors I was talking about the Toronto Raptors okay okay I feel better now that you guys explain why Lebron couldn’t go on stage either either that or his hate for Russell Westbrook is so great he’s like I ain’t going up there Russell wouldn’t let him on stage he’d be like get out yeah that that La would have teamed up again yeah he made the right decision you ain’t La bro yeah it’s bad enough you get on stage when Bone Thugs and Harmony here out wow it’s bad enough you know for you know it’s probably bad enough that you know all these people that Drake did songs about were at the concert like YG does one of his biggest hits that has Drake without Drake yeah why a whole thing about I mean just yeah I mean yeah it was that was one of the most La things I’ve seen in about 30 plus yet that was just so la and the fact that they brought out so many other acts before they got there like he exposed I mean that was the ultimate big homie move he exposed a lot of Acts to a whole new audience yeah and there were some of those songs I had heard being out and didn’t know who they were so it was like start putting all this stuff together I mean that was just a great concept I mean my man Kendrick was diabolical the red the red no the red sweatshirt the Hat the chains he found some Nike Shocks which I didn’t know you could I didn’t know that you could I didn’t know that you could even that those would even still be wearable I mean yeah and he just went you know and then run it back run it back we gonna play that song F you know what just run it back man like I said uh the day afterward after the the show it felt like it was almost like um with Kendrick uh kind of winning that battle with Drake that was like winning a championship and the pop out was the championship parade like it was celebration for winning that that chip uh battle right do it in do it in the city of Champions Englewood you know and Kenny’s favorite place I do like I wouldn’t say it’s my favorite place but I like right up there you know you know I know the form is near and dear to you you know so many wonderful childhood memories it’s no it’s okay it’s okay not at all we’ve all accepted your Laker fandom more than you all right that’s enough right um I mean we all we all acknowledge it you keep denying it I my coach is not JJ reick oh okay man why you got the man he is doing good I mean I’ve been taking this for a whole you know it’s just like what you want me to say I mean he’s not you know he’s not the first guy they pulled this with the whole non-coaching he’s not I saw today he’s the sixth coach since 2010 they’ve done this with who had no coaching experience at all they put on a made a head coach I ain’t saying that as an endorsem*nt I’m just like okay it’s not the first time so who knows maybe it’ll work I just don’t I don’t know least Darvin was a coach this is a safe space for you I’m I’m sorry I just I don’t know I don’t know what to think I just don’t know what to think of it because like in a vacuum I like JJ reck I like his analysis I think he knows the game and all that but I never once watched listen to him on a game and said you know what he got to be doing coaching the Lakers I just never thought that any CH is there any chance because we haven’t really talked I think we got four days LeBron’s got to make a decision on opting in opting out is there any chance in your mind that LeBron James is playing somewhere other than Los Angeles next year no I can’t see another team paying him 50 something million dollarss the Lakers will literally draft his son and hire his podcast partner apparently yeah I mean who else is going to do that I just can’t see him going anywhere you know and you I I I I think he’ll be there and I said we have to you know wait and see what happens it’s this going to be you know I don’t know I just don’t I just don’t know what to expect I mean I thought he did good in the presser because I’m like he’ have lost the presser I’d be really depressed you know but even still it’s like no someone like like groaned when he said they said that LeBron wasn’t involved or something someone goes oh like in the middle of the presser Bill M men like oh come on No One Believes that I would I mean just say you know we you know in terms of the the details like he did not give me any AD it just it just doesn’t it’s not plausible that you spend that much time recording a podcast with someone that not once did house Darin doing come up I mean you’re talking about you’re breaking down plays on the and strategy on the podcast I mean the podcast for all the purposes wasn’t was an interview in an audition you know I mean you know so hey you know if you’re a former player if you you know if you’re a player who wants who has a coach in mind start a podcast with him well that’s the move you know you know maybe if Mike Brown makes dear he GNA start a podcast with somebody all of a sudden we have a dearon fox or you know out of the blue sabonis podcast you know dear Fox Doug Christie podcast watch oh man oh wow that would oh that would be that would be diabolical that would be and it’s not the point of the conversation but the thought of dearen hosting a podcast is spectacular I I would listen to that every week dearon would keep it a stack de he would keep it a stack on every play every breakdown he would just say whatever he felt yeah knowing him a little like know long I’ve known him I can see why he doesn’t have one but he’d be so good at it like I mean he’d be he’d be excellent at it because he he’d have he’d pull he’d have no filter he would say so he’d be like well Doug I mean look that was just stupid I don’t know why I don’t why buddy did that that was stupid why’d you use buddy as an example what buddy man man been on two different team since then bu he’s not even here man buddy just catching Strays Buddy’s out there just looking for his next team and you’re just like why would they dig up some film of when buddy was still there be easy Doug and dearon break down poor buddy poor watch with Luke Walton that was just uncalled for this is all uncalled for what’s your most memorable draft day we got the draft tomorrow do you have a particularly memorable Draft Day covering for the Kings man there’s just so many I think for different reasons the funniest one was the papana year because the way the people I knew around the league started texting me and they were just like what in the hell is your and whenever the king they didn’t like they became my team like what is your team doing I’m like I’m not in there but we’ve had we’ve had a few we’ve had a few draft moments I think the Marvin baggley Dame little rap battle on draft day was pretty fun yeah because the Kings didn’t have a first round pick that part of the day I remember when Vlade asked um asked us you know the media did we like The Pick of colie Stein and me and Sean Cunningham both said No at the same time and I said you need a point guard I said you need a point guard like what are you doing I think why’d you drop a center I mean there’s just a lot of them I mean the rers laughing I was I was just like Demarcus has made the All-Star team you don’t need a center I just didn’t understand it you know but I mean and you know and then you you drafted Willie when you’re bringing in George Carl who hates having a bunch of big men it just was like this is going to be a fun year George Carl lowkey one of the worst moves the Kings have ever made yeah that really gets underrated about just how bad that went I mean to speak how many bad things the Kings have done for that to like oh that’s not glaringly number one it’s up there though yeah that was that one was I I mean that one was pretty bad you know it got to the PO George didn’t like me you know George you know George would like complain to me and then the players would be like why is he mad at you all you did was ask him you know I think one time he got mad at me when I asked him about Rudy Gay playing power forward and he was like players should be happy to play I what are you doing advocating I’m like what are you talking about I ask you a question I mean yeah that that year I never forget one time he quote Got Me by talking to another news Outlet about some of his plans because they had just went to mil no Charlotte and blew a 20-point lead and lost and then the next day he gave him like practice off and I tweeted they had practice off and people started jumping on the Tweet like how could you give them a day off they just blew a 20-point lead and somehow that was my fault that they were mad [Laughter] you know and then we had that he was going to get fired and like everyone thought he was getting fired and then they didn’t fire damn man that that night in B night in Cleveland could be its own book I had players dming me complaining because that was the night Rondo was like we had he said how we lose by 20 and have a voluntary practice the next day and like players were texting me talking about no I was there though CU he said there were six or seven so they were like trying to make sure that I knew they were part of the group and Rondo I think Rondo even told one of them calm down leave Jason alone I’m the one who gave him the numbers the players who was there why you mad at him yeah that was just a I mean imagine the coach thinking he’s about to get fired and like everyone thinks he’s getting fired and then you don’t fire him and you go to practice the you go to shoot around in Philly the next day and the entire team is mad that the coach is there because they thought he wasn’t going to be there I mean there funny thing that that wording is important it’s not everyone thinks he’s being fired everyone in some way shape or form has been told he’s being fired yeah it wasn’t like these guys just said I wonder if like they were like he’s G right yeah they’re like he’s gone and then you know they they all come like they go to shoot and then I think I think somebody on their staff or someone text me that night and said oh cuz is going to be a joy tomorrow oh it was it was and this was like all going like to the allstar break I think so it was just like it was just yeah the the even how George became the coach was just like a I watch my language it was a show no it was a show I mean three coaches like in 30 days poor Tyrone Corin out there coaching while the kings are actively recruiting George Carl and he knows it and somehow that was also my fault people got got mad at me for asking Corbin about it I’m like well what do you want me to I mean yeah that that’s probably very I mean cuz so many other things have happened that’s a very underrated like Fiasco of the of that of that playoff drought you know I think because they traded their Allstar at the All-Star game that kind of falls behind it but yeah the whole George Carl was at 80 like 100 games was just wild and like there were guys on that team who I didn’t know could get mad who would like be mad well that’s what you know you gota let the basketball people make basketball decisions all right yeah well that that felt that felt like right there so we’re gonna we’re gonna shut this down I’m G I’m gonna go I’m gonna go sit somewhere and do research on JJ reck’s offense that they ran with that fourth grade team you you I got I got to get ready you know I I I got to I got to drink the proverbial Kool-Aid and buy in so if it goes right I can be like see I was with you all along the whole way yeah I I knew this was going to work I knew I knew you’d be more Mark Jackson than Steve Nash thanks for always making time for us Jason we appreciate you all right y’all C you next week that’s Jason Jones he’s going to watch Game Changer to catch up on JJ reic film um we’ll see you guys tomorrow we’ve got uh Liberty and links tonight commission Cup Final Cup yeah um we’ll see you guys tomorrow draft day baby yes indeed do them in KC beginning with the Insiders at 10 a.m. on Sacramento sports leader ESPN 1320 vantes oh man I see y’all been asking about that JJ story I have no idea I have no idea if that story is true or not um I have no idea uh but we do have to go do another show we got a lot of work to do today because we got a big day tomorrow uh so um man draft day baby we’ll see you guys tomorrow Wednesday draft day that’s weird Wednesday draft day we’ll see well John that’s not necessary we’ll see you guys tomorrow at 10:

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